Back End Sliding Out?

[Lyons]

A few times I’ve been caught out on corners (and a roundabout this morning) where the back end of the Tiguan has slid out. It’s been at pretty low speed, and therefore sadly not due to talent.

could this be an alignment issue? The only other thing I can think of is that I have proper winter tyres on the front, and all seasons in the rear. I know you’re not meant to have winters on the front axle and summer tyres on the rear, but I assumed all season would be ok? They’re M&S rated. Plus the roads are only slightly greasy, it hasn’t even been on ice!

 

[Coog]

First thing I would check are pressures. Did it do it with the last wheels?

Maybe it's me just being fussy but I wouldn't even have differently worn tyres on a 4x4 never mind different brands. Maybe it's messing with the 4wd settings

 

[Eager]

I found the roads very greasy recently. Making my 1.7 Astra a real beast to tame at times lol

 

[Lyons]

First thing I would check are pressures. Did it do it with the last wheels?

Maybe it's me just being fussy but I wouldn't even have differently worn tyres on a 4x4 never mind different brands. Maybe it's messing with the 4wd settings

No, but then its only done it 3 times on these wheels and I mightn't have been in the same situation. The most sensible thing would be to swap the other wheels back on, but thats a complete PITA . Pretty sure I checked the pressures before I fitted the wheels, but will have another look tonight.

 

[FM155]

The roads are greasy as frig and you are the stig.

 

[Nickyyy]

Yo man. What I want you to do. Is rip that e brake. And when you do that what I want you to do is power over.


sounds like your camber might need adjusted on the back or it could be your tyres on the back are clean ***** vs good tyres on the front

 

[Gambit]

The only other thing I can think of is that I have proper winter tyres on the front, and all seasons in the rear

ill put my £5 on it being that

 

[Lyons]

Wasn’t really happy with that myself so will just get a couple more proper winters.

though I’m surprised it would have that affect on a slightly damp road!

 

[Coog]

Rotate them and see what that does

 

[Gambit]

Rotate them and see what that does

straight over the roundabout

 

[gpaevo]

ill put my £5 on it being that

The roads are really greasy at the moment. I've full winters on my BM at the moment and the traction light is having a rave at every input of the steering wheel. Especially on the **** surfaces in town.

 

[VEN©M]

Doesn't sound to me like you're pushing anywhere near hard enough to be taking a decent brand of all-season tyres to their limits, even on wet or greasy roads you should be moving decent before things get fun. Alignment? what type of tyre?

i horse round templepatrick roundabout couple times every day in all weathers, infiniti Q30 or a hyndai kona and sadly nothing that exciting EVER happens to me and the tyres on the infiniti are almost shag*ed.

 

[Chris Mac]

Is your Tiguan 4x4 of fwd?

 

[G N K]

If its either the Hillsborough or ballymena roundabout I wouldnt worry, pretty sure you would slide walking round them.

 

[_Stu_]

Roads are greasy and even my big S80 has wanted to turn in to a drifty wagon unexpectedly a couple of times recently. I remember @RubberLover had said about only fitting full sets of winter tyres for this reason. He might be able to shed some light on it.

 

[Lyons]

Doesn't sound to me like you're pushing anywhere near hard enough to be taking a decent brand of all-season tyres to their limits, even on wet or greasy roads you should be moving decent before things get fun. Alignment? what type of tyre?

i horse round templepatrick roundabout couple times every day in all weathers, infiniti Q30 or a hyndai kona and sadly nothing that exciting EVER happens to me and the tyres on the infiniti are almost shag*ed.

Aye honestly, I was barely moving when it happened this morning.

Is your Tiguan 4x4 of fwd?

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If its either the Hillsborough or ballymena roundabout I wouldnt worry, pretty sure you would slide walking round them.

Hillsborough is wild!

Is your Tiguan 4x4 of fwd?

*goes to check there is a prop shaft*

 

[Gaz]

A few times I’ve been caught out on corners (and a roundabout this morning) where the back end of the Tiguan has slid out. It’s been at pretty low speed, and therefore sadly not due to talent.

could this be an alignment issue? The only other thing I can think of is that I have proper winter tyres on the front, and all seasons in the rear. I know you’re not meant to have winters on the front axle and summer tyres on the rear, but I assumed all season would be ok? They’re M&S rated. Plus the roads are only slightly greasy, it hasn’t even been on ice!

It's the mixed tyres for sure. On a FWD car the issue wouldn't be that noticeable, but on a 4WD it's compounded by much enhanced grip at the front exaggerating the effect of the driven wheels at the rear having less traction on greasy roads.

ADAC in Germany (similar institution to our AA) ran a report a few years back on using mixed tyres on 4WD vehicles and in the case of winter tyres on the front mixed with seasonal tyres, the results were shockingly bad. They would never recommend mixing them, and if you must, put the winter ones on the rear as the risk from loss of traction at the rear is much greater than the front - most people can handle a bit of understeer. not so much the vehicle swapping ends.

As said, take 20 mins and swap them round some evening, you'll know straight away for sure.

 

[suckindiesel]

Steer into the skid. If any consolation I have done some proper accidental power slides in the big V6 Trooper this week.

 

[chrisdromore]

Near binned the s2000 at the wkend lifting it from the bodywork place. It’s slipperyer than Arlene in a chicken house atm

 

[big cyril]

Is this a first generation Tiguan? We had one a while back, in the snow it was great craic, if the front wheels lost traction it connected up the rear axle quickly, if cornering that meant oversteer, all of this is in a field with the esp off however, there were never any antics like that on the road.

 

[RubberLover]

M+S can be misleading, a proper all season will be winter approved and have the TPMSF symbol.

What make and model tyre is it?

 

[Lappintyre]

Greasy roads round my work, they’re building there. The X3 has been doing the exact same, but just around there. I’m running Pirelli Sotto zeros on all 4 corners, so in my case is definitely just the state of those particular roads..

Edit: also, you might want to rethink that M3 idea

 

[Daviddunlop83]

Scrap the winters and just put decent tyres on

Never felt the need to waste time on winter Tyre’s here tbh

 

[impact]

Roads were definately particularly greasy this morning so said the rear of the 86 so it did.

 

[Apis]

The salt is one thing but only takes a few drops of diesel to turn the roundabouts into a skating rink. You definitely see, smell and feel it when riding a motorbike.
Even a few trickles out of an overfilled car, nevermind all the vans and lorries with diesel dripping down from the filler.
And have a look at the rainbows on the yard of a Translink depot next time its raining.
Bit of a rant there, sorry,