Dundrod Ulster Grand Prix difficulties

Captain Starlet

RMS Regular
Other races aren't free, cookstown and tandragee charge. TT is incomparable.

The people who complain about the price will be the first to complain when the UGP is gone, I've already witnessed it first hand. People who came to me at the start of August trying to grab a free arm band and complained to me about the price of tickets have already rang, text and said to my face, I can't believe it's going bad. Even though when I didn't get them an armband they didn't go.

One person actually huffed with me this year because I didnt get them a ticket, boycotted the whole event for the first time since they were a toddler, all because this would have been the first year in a long long time that they would have had to pay in. Said they wouldn't stand in the pishing rain for love nor money. On the Saturday race day, they sent me a snapchat of them out fishing. Then when they seen the highlights said to me they were genuinely gutted to have missed it.

That's what we're up against. If it was £30 into all the racing events then yes, its extremely dear, but it's not and if the rest of the big races are free then £30 for a years International road racing is incredible value.
Flip I didn't know that the Cookstown and Tandragee charged, I can't remember ever having to pay in, I just bought the programme.

It is a sad state of affairs when someone boycotts the event over £30. I do think they should organise the event better, maybe a similar programme to the NW200 with practice on a Tuesday and full days practice and racing on Thursday and Friday, maybe people wouldn't mind paying more if they perceive they are getting more for their money.
 

big-lew18

RMS Regular
Location
back of beyond
Drives
really well!
Theres Wednesday Thursday and Friday at the UGP. I got charged to the Tandragee this year, on the road towards castle corner. And got charged last year at the Cookstown on the road from the drum road onto the track, brings you out just before the Green house. I dont mind paying either. If I didnt pay in I'd buy a programme or something. In fact I'm near sure I bought a programme both these times too.

It's the stigma with road racing I think @Artoir, imagine the uproar on the Nolan show if someone was killed at a road race and a large local company had funded it. Nolan would practically be calling them murderers
 

swansty

RMS Regular
Location
Banbridge
Drives
Disco and Saxo
Ideally some local business would put their name to it. Look at the money goes into rallying locally.
I was sort of wondering if I should say something....TBH UGP and other bike events are lucky they can charge spectators. Rallying isn't allowed to so our income has to come from entries and sponsorship. Its not easy so good luck @big-lew18 if you are involved in that side of it.
 

big-lew18

RMS Regular
Location
back of beyond
Drives
really well!
I thought there was something about rallying, is there something to do with them being road legal cars and around road closures and the likes that prevents them from charging? I may be making that up in my head, but I know next to nothing about rallying so couldn't address that either
 

Artoir

RMS Regular
Location
Warrenpoint
Drives
V8
I was sort of wondering if I should say something....TBH UGP and other bike events are lucky they can charge spectators. Rallying isn't allowed to so our income has to come from entries and sponsorship. Its not easy so good luck @big-lew18 if you are involved in that side of it.
That’s a fair point actually hadn’t considered that
 

swansty

RMS Regular
Location
Banbridge
Drives
Disco and Saxo
I thought there was something about rallying, is there something to do with them being road legal cars and around road closures and the likes that prevents them from charging? I may be making that up in my head, but I know next to nothing about rallying so couldn't address that either
I can’t quite remember the technicality that exists which stops us charging but there is one and it’s linked to the road closing order legislation. Apart from that, there is the sheer practicalities of how to do it as a stage could be over 9 miles long with multiple access points. It’s hard enough to get enough volunteers to be safety marshals without trying to find extra to stand and charge people. The last 2 years, we have stopped printing and selling programs as it cost us more than we made. We now do a free to download version.
 

Gaza_r

RMS Regular
Location
Belfast
Drives
Focus TDCI
I can’t quite remember the technicality that exists which stops us charging but there is one and it’s linked to the road closing order legislation. Apart from that, there is the sheer practicalities of how to do it as a stage could be over 9 miles long with multiple access points. It’s hard enough to get enough volunteers to be safety marshals without trying to find extra to stand and charge people. The last 2 years, we have stopped printing and selling programs as it cost us more than we made. We now do a free to download version.
Yeah, Dundrod Circuit has a specific piece of legislation allowing them to charge admission. Guess which political party petitioned for it on their behalf...


It's a hugely contentious issue amongst the NI motorclub's as admission charges could generate additional funds for clubs and offset the increasing insurance costs to run an event.

The whole "no one wants to sponsor road racing" is a red herring.

UGP/Dundrod just have get on with it like lots of other MC's around the country.
 
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Wild Thing

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Location
Tandragee
Drives
Fast Cooper S's
i live in tandragee, have lost friends that i went through school with to road racing and as much as i love the sport would not put our name to sponsorship and tbh you are not talking big money to get a small add in a program. Its a great sport that can have tragic conseqences way above the odds of other motorsports, but its hard core in our motorsport roots and will continue into the future until insurance makes it un-feasible to run
 

David.S

RMS Regular
i live in tandragee, have lost friends that i went through school with to road racing and as much as i love the sport would not put our name to sponsorship and tbh you are not talking big money to get a small add in a program. Its a great sport that can have tragic conseqences way above the odds of other motorsports, but its hard core in our motorsport roots and will continue into the future until insurance makes it un-feasible to run
Coming from Tandragee we sponsored one of the races a few years ago. Road racing is dangerous, I have had friends killed racing or road riding.
We only did it because the race needed more money.
 
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