F1 2020

[cauld1]

In fairness I don't think Lance is bottom of the barrell level of driving to be honest. Nowhere near Grosjean levels at all.

 

[svensktoppen]

And AM = Stroll Sr, so it's still pretty much his money to do with as he pleases.

But yes, as they move up the rankings the game changes. Just depends.

They're still a customer car outfit as things stand.

 

[carmad.]

perez to me has always been an average driver and he didn’t like being pushed by ocon ( see spa when he put him up the wall )

i dunno if vettal has gave up ya cannot just loose talent and experience ( i would think the red team are giving lecler all the shinny new parts )

lewis has out classed bottas ( as much as i don’t like him off track ) and it will show over the next couple off races he has this one in the bag unless he has some bad luck and unfortunately for us if he does beat shumacs record we will never hear the end off it

vettal in a pink merc could be fun next year

alonso in the mix and no kimi next year will be a odd line up

 

[Paddy_R]

Grosjean doesn't and hasnt deserved a seat for quite a few years now.

Seems others agree.... Mark Webber: Romain Grosjean 'borderline out of his depth' | PlanetF1

 

[Crow555]

Webber did once dub him the "first lap nutcase" but I agree. Even Coulthard on ch4 on Sunday felt he didn't belong in F1 anymore.

 

[Dave..]

Seems others agree.... Mark Webber: Romain Grosjean 'borderline out of his depth' | PlanetF1

The stewards let him off. He has always been a reckless driver and hopefully he doesn’t cause a crash.

 

[svensktoppen]

What, he got nothing at all for all that carry-on on Sunday? Just "keep doing what you're doing lad"?

 

[Crow555]

Formal warning, but yeah, effectively nothing. He's the first driver in a long time to get a black and white flag in F1. I'm struggling to remember another that did.

 

[DC.]

Le Clerc got one last year in Monza for forcing Hamilton off the track.

Funny how Grosjean is chairman of the GPDA. Can’t think of a less suitable driver for that role!

 

[Wild Thing]

Grosjean must bring a serious backing to Haas, cant figure out how he has lasted so long in F1

 

[SlowRider]

At least Grosjean gives us something to talk about. Giovinazzi is the most forgettable driver ever. He just cruses around in 16th doing nothing.

 

[Blackie]

At least Grosjean gives us something to talk about. Giovinazzi is the most forgettable driver ever. He just cruses around in 16th doing nothing.

Who?

 

[sam_9n]

Interesting

 

[svensktoppen]

Don't Know about the two day format but it will be great to see F1 back at Imola

 

[svensktoppen]

Decent summary of the state of play so far:

Five things to watch out for at Silverstone

With Pirelli bringing softer tyres to Silverstone this weekend and soaring temperatures forecasted, there could be more drama for the 70th Anniversary race.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[DC.]

Bottas signs for another year at Mercedes.

 

[pablo]

Bottas signs for another year at Mercedes.

unexciting but you can see why

#wingman

 

[svensktoppen]

Lol, most unsurprising news ever

 

[pablo]

Merc would be mad to put another LeClerc type in beside Lewis until he stops winning

 

[Petem86]

roll on 2022

 

[DC.]

F1 - Renault Protest Decision

www.fia.com

 

[Dave..]

F1 - Renault Protest Decision

www.fia.com

I am surprised at that as Haas has a Ferrari but with their colours, I am sure RP will appeal.

 

[svensktoppen]

So that's basically a slap on the wrist for a wee technicality and then carry on?

If anyone is going to kick up a fuss about RP being a Mercedes customer car then they need to do the same with Haas (last year's Ferrari), Alfa-Tauri (last year's RB), and so on.

The whole thing is just genuinely ridiculous. First allowing customer cars to keep costs down, and then people getting all upset over teams using customer cars Just because one of them happens to be quick this year

 

[Jrooney06]

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I am surprised at that as Haas has a Ferrari but with their colours, I am sure RP will appeal.

It’s the aerodynamic surfaces are up for discussion. Hass aerodynamically is supposedly designed by a third party. In the rules all aerodynamic surfaces can’t be bought or copied from another team. Now how much of it can be different if you’re using a Ferrari rear suspension and gearbox who knows but I would say it is sufficiently different that it’s not a problem.

If the brake ducts are deemed illegal how much else is also? Renault apparently have a former Racing Point engineer providing some of this information.

 

[svensktoppen]

It's genuinely ridiculous. Everyone knows these cars are copies of last year's Ferrari/RB/Mercedes/whatever. It's the whole point of the exercise as otherwise there would just be half a dozen teams on the grid.

The whole "designed by a third party" is just lawyer speak for "have somebody else draw a part that by complete coincidence happens to be identical to the same part from RB/Mercedes/Ferrari".

It's the legal vehicle in the rules allowing customer cars in the first place.

The only reason Renault are kicking up a fuss about RP is because RP happen to be quick this year whereas AT and Haas are not.

And RP will just add some token bit of plastic on the part and go "look, we designed this part ourselves" even though it is still identical to last year's Mercedes.

And life goes on.