F1 2020

[DC.]

They made a loss in 2018.

Renault F1 team made £7.4m loss in 2018

www.motorsport.com

I think they’ll be glad to get Daniel Ricciardo off their books. His salary was/is $27.5m.

After the announcement Renault have to save €2b over the next 3 years, I’m guessing a paying driver will get Ricciardo’s vacated seat.

 

[RallyCiaran]

I remember an article I read last year saying Renault had spent a billion dollars on its comeback as a works team. That is mega money to still be in the mid field.

 

[gpaevo]

If these teams are allowed to fold it speaks volumes of the F1 management and the sport as a whole.

 

[Robert]

Bernie got out while the going was good.

 

[Paddy_R]

I remember an article I read last year saying Renault had spent a billion dollars on its comeback as a works team. That is mega money to still be in the mid field.

Over how long was that? Ferraris budget for last year alone was $463 million. At that rate they'd be through a billion in 2 1/2 years or so. Mercedes and Red Bull were similar. F1 is horrendously expensive. This new budget cap will help alot. Though Ferrari and the other top team will complain.... Possibly alot.

 

[svensktoppen]

They were all complaining about the cost cap up to just a few weeks ago.

What's happening in the real world have brought all the big teams back to the table and the cuts have passed. None of them have tons of cash anymore.

Possibly except Red Bull, everyone still buys their ****, lol.

But certainly all the manufacturers are on their knees.

It's not pretty what's happening and it's not over yet.

 

[svensktoppen]

It's official:

Formula 1: Williams up for sale after £13m loss last year

The Williams Formula 1 team and wider company group are up for sale after posting a £13m loss last year.

www.bbc.co.uk

By the report, not just the F1 team on the table but potentially the whole group including Williams Engineering.

 

[RallyCiaran]

Over how long was that? Ferraris budget for last year alone was $463 million. At that rate they'd be through a billion in 2 1/2 years or so. Mercedes and Red Bull were similar. F1 is horrendously expensive. This new budget cap will help alot. Though Ferrari and the other top team will complain.... Possibly alot.

This is the Autosport article about it. It's behind a pay wall now though.

Renault's $1billion F1 gamble

Having bought back its old team, Renault is struggling to recapture the glory days of the mid-2000s when it stood toe to toe with Formula 1's greats. As the total spend creeps past a billion dollars and the project remains way off track, STUART CODLING as

www.autosport.com

 

[stevyg]

Bernie got out while the going was good.

Makes me wonder what Bernie would have done with this season if he was in charge. Probably kept going. Send it!

 

[DC.]

 

[svensktoppen]

Race season confirmed to start in July. Eight races in Europe confirmed, including Spa, and the rest still TBD. Finish in the middle east in December.

Formula 1 season to start with eight races in Europe

The 2020 Formula 1 season will start in Austria on 5 July, the first of a run of eight races in Europe.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Crow555]

To be fair those 6 circuits, with perhaps the exception of Suzuka and Interlagos are probably the better ones in the calendar (in my humble opinion). Less Sochis and Shanghais are a good thing in my eyes. Looking forward to this season now.

 

[Dave..]

Race season confirmed to start in July. Eight races in Europe confirmed, including Spa, and the rest still TBD. Finish in the middle east in December.

Formula 1 season to start with eight races in Europe

The 2020 Formula 1 season will start in Austria on 5 July, the first of a run of eight races in Europe.

www.bbc.co.uk

Even though I moan about the racing being boring I am looking forward to the first race.

 

[DC.]

Old tracks are best and generally produce better races.

The pecking order will be interesting as everyone was convinced Mercedes were far ahead pre-Australia.

 

[svensktoppen]

Yep, definitely the best circuits! I do like Suzuka and Interlagos too.

Could have done without Bahrain and Abu Dhabi, lol, but in fairness there are never any spectators there anyway so a closed door race would make no difference

 

[stevyg]

I hope they do COTA & CGV with spectators, I'm busting to get to a race or two.

 

[Crow555]

 

[Avant1]

Looking forward to some races at least

 

[Robert]

I’m looking forward to the double headers actually. Will be interesting to see if much can be learnt from the first race to mix up results for the second. With a week in between there is plenty of time for analysis and adjustments to car and strategy.

 

[weeloaney]

I’m looking forward to the double headers actually. Will be interesting to see if much can be learnt from the first race to mix up results for the second. With a week in between there is plenty of time for analysis and adjustments to car and strategy.

They should start the 2nd race at the same place in reverse order of the previous goes results. Mix thing up

 

[svensktoppen]

I really do think they should take the opportunity to do things like that. It's a bit of a lost season anyway, there will forever be the "was it a proper season" debate whoever wins and all that.

It's actually a chance to go "let's go wild and try different things and see what works or not".

Anyway, it won't happen, not in a million years, lol. But some sort of reverse grid would do F1 no end of good

 

[gpaevo]

They should start the 2nd race at the same place in reverse order of the previous goes results. Mix thing up

Similar was proposed and agreed by all the teams but Merc. Big Totto said 'nein'!. He's in a position to win and wants it to stay that way.

 

[Robert]

I think Lewis would relish that opportunity, starting at the back not because of a balls up but because he qualified there. Would it not end up being a case of the top teams trying to qualify mid field to average their starting positions?

 

[Crow555]

Perhaps they might see the benefit in double header weekends (less logicitics costs, one race on saturday, one on sunday). I know BTCC is a different discipline but having multiple races at the same venue could be the new norm.

 

[weeloaney]

I think Lewis would relish that opportunity, starting at the back not because of a balls up but because he qualified there. Would it not end up being a case of the top teams trying to qualify mid field to average their starting positions?

That’s why it should be done in the previous race results, they wouldn’t sacrifice a race win was they don’t want to start last in the next race