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[Daviddunlop83]

Just bought some laser to try on a stubborn glass shower door which she can’t seem to get the water marks etc off

That Apple Pay is too handy/dangerous

 

[Big Pimp]

thanks buddy.

I'll get that sorted for you today

 

[Dan.86]

I’m a total laser convert now. Used it to loosen the dirt on the grout for our floor tiles and mopping. Now just have a mix in a sprayer for cleaning down surfaces everyday.

 

[svensktoppen]

It's magic

 

[Daviddunlop83]

thanks buddy.

I'll get that sorted for you today

What ratio would be best for likes of shower glass? Also same for granite/general cleaning?

 

[svensktoppen]

Two small caps in a 500ml sprayer is all you need

Spray on, wipe off, job done. Rinse with hot water even better if you can.

 

[gary1365]

My order arrived yesterday thanks for the extra bottle of scent Ross.

I haven't had time to try anything except clear view and scent. I'm not 100% sure on the stripper scent yet but I think it'll grow on me. Haven't tried grape yet. Clear view is fantastic I hate cleaning windscreens with a passion but clear view makes it a pleasure.

The cars stinking with the farmers all out and about I'll have to get it cleaned and get some before and after.

The only problem is I don't think you send enough triggers i got scent, terminator and hybrid and only 2 triggers.

 

[Martyn]

@Big Pimp - Product suggestion Ross after watching Obsessed Garage on youtube last night.

They are selling a wheel cleaner a bit like Purge but with rust inhibitors in the formula.

This means that after using you don't get as much of a rust build-up on your discs - and hence when driving for the first time after washing you don't get as much of that yellow rust tinge round the inside of your wheel...

They also are selling a clear spray so that if you are not using a wheel cleaner and just washing the wheels with soap that you can mist on the discs after and it does the same thing - stops the discs forming a rust surface.....

Maybe your chemist could analyse the formula and rustle something up?

 

[euge07]

@Big Pimp - Product suggestion Ross after watching Obsessed Garage on youtube last night.

They are selling a wheel cleaner a bit like Purge but with rust inhibitors in the formula.

This means that after using you don't get as much of a rust build-up on your discs - and hence when driving for the first time after washing you don't get as much of that yellow rust tinge round the inside of your wheel...

They also are selling a clear spray so that if you are not using a wheel cleaner and just washing the wheels with soap that you can mist on the discs after and it does the same thing - stops the discs forming a rust surface.....

Maybe your chemist could analyse the formula and rustle something up?

sounds like this: atom-mac - Bilt Hamber

 

[Martyn]

sounds like this: atom-mac - Bilt Hamber

You are spot on! - thanks for that.....

All we need is it added to purge.

 

[mark19]

Got carried away with purge!

 

[euge07]

You are spot on! - thanks for that.....

All we need is it added to purge.

the bilt hamber is applied after you wash, and not on the wheel itself i belive you mist it onto your brake discs etc Haven't used it personally though and I believe you use it every wash

purge you would only need every so often, personally I only use it 3/4 times a year

 

[CharlySkunkWeed]

That rust does my head in. I usually put the car back in the garage after washing which makes it worse when i go to take the car out a day or 2 later

 

[svensktoppen]

Purge is an acid, even if a weak one. As is every other "wheel cleaner"/"fallout remover"/"whatever you want to call them" on the planet.

So it will corrode exposed metal, such as discs, to some degree.

Even just washing the car without Purge makes them corrode, lol. Or if it sits in/after a bit of rain. Etc. Just life.

Purge doesn't really make it any worse, it is a pretty weak acid already.

Can't see how you can add something as the whole point is that the product needs to be acidic. And being acidic it will corrode discs to some extent.

An acidic cleaner that doesn't corrode exposed metal? Sounds like snake oil to me.

You might be able to use a separate product after but I honestly don't see the point. Discs corrode, and it comes off first time you use them again. Just life.

Each to their own and all that though!

 

[Ben]

I thought Purge was an Alkaline?

 

[svensktoppen]

No, it's basically the same acid as you get in rhubarb. They all are ("fallout removers").

It's a weak acid and pretty safe but enough to attack the mainly metallic dust left from brakes, which then settles on wheels, etc. But without making too much of a mess of the discs. No worse than what you would get anyway just from them sitting wet.

And in the case of Purge, some secret sauce to make it smell better

If anyone actually does worry about a bit of surface rust on the discs, then just cut a piece of cardboard to cover them while spraying the wheels. Then blow dry the discs after washing. And park in a dry heated garage. And never dry in the rain, never mind in winter, lol.

Or just get over it

 

[svensktoppen]

And when parking up with wet discs, try not to use the hand brake if possible. That way the brakes won't "stick" as the discs inevitably oxidise over night. Or at least not as badly.

 

[quattro Rick]

And when parking up with wet discs, try not to use the hand brake if possible. That way the brakes won't "stick" as the discs inevitably oxidise over night. Or at least not as badly.

Have gotten into a car with a wound on handbrake after it sitting for a week or two and the noise of the rear brake releasing is spine shattering!!!

 

[Big Pimp]

That’s a really good idea @Martyn and one I’ll definitely speak to the chemist about.

I’m sure as soon as I describe it to him he will know what you’re describing.

I thought Purge was an Alkaline?

It’s pH neutral so neither acid nor alkaline!

as @svensktoppen describes it it’s a form of acid as a base. It’s actually called thioglycolic acid and it’s a really cool but geeky acid which doesn’t do much until it comes in contact with ferrous fallout and then it works it’s magic!

There are a few other carriers etc in it to make it do what it does without the stink but inherently because of the make up of it and how it works, attacking iron around the discs is always going to be an issue.

its one to leave with me and I’ll ask the question!

Thanks as always, and if anyone else can think of anything don’t ever be afraid to make the suggestion!

 

[CharlySkunkWeed]

That’s a really good idea @Martyn and one I’ll definitely speak to the chemist about.

I’m sure as soon as I describe it to him he will know what you’re describing.

It’s pH neutral so neither acid nor alkaline!

as @svensktoppen

There are a few other carriers etc in it to make it do what it does without the stink but inherently because of the make up of it and how it works, attacking iron around the discs is always going to be an issue.

Is it not just the water making disc rust ? I rarely use wheel cleaner/fallout remover and my discs still get surface rust.

 

[Big Pimp]

Is it not just the water making disc rust ? I rarely use wheel cleaner/fallout remover and my discs still get surface rust.

Yeah, basically anything which gets your discs wet. They are bare metal at the end of the day.

Nothing worse though than that squealing sound when they’ve sat up for a few days!

 

[CharlySkunkWeed]

Yeah, basically anything which gets your discs wet. They are bare metal at the end of the day.

Nothing worse though than that squealing sound when they’ve sat up for a few days!

It's more all the dust that goes round the nice clean wheel when you first hit the brakes.
I highly doubt there's a way round it though , but if there is I'd definitely be interested.

 

[300trophy]

I just take my car a quick drive after I’ve rinsed it and hit the brakes a few times then dry the wheels off with a drying towel.

 

[CharlySkunkWeed]

I just take my car a quick drive after I’ve rinsed it and hit the brakes a few times then dry the wheels off with a drying towel.

I would but the odd time I have a beer while spending the day on the car

 

[quattro Rick]

That’s a really good idea @Martyn and one I’ll definitely speak to the chemist about.

I’m sure as soon as I describe it to him he will know what you’re describing.

It’s pH neutral so neither acid nor alkaline!

as @svensktoppen describes it it’s a form of acid as a base. It’s actually called thioglycolic acid and it’s a really cool but geeky acid which doesn’t do much until it comes in contact with ferrous fallout and then it works it’s magic!

There are a few other carriers etc in it to make it do what it does without the stink but inherently because of the make up of it and how it works, attacking iron around the discs is always going to be an issue.

its one to leave with me and I’ll ask the question!

Thanks as always, and if anyone else can think of anything don’t ever be afraid to make the suggestion!

Fun fact, purge is awesome, but not nearly as effective diluted

I tried it at around 1:1 and it hardly made a difference, strengthened to about 2:1 and it's working, but definitely think it's best to leave as it comes!

Instead of developing a usable and finite product, just patent disc bags or some crap like that which you can elasto strap around the disc to keep away any water which can be used each wash and not need replenished