Yup, I really miss driving the Elise or 997 but they're in hibernation on life support.........Just have to enjoy the EV serenity in the winter + I can't arrive at a customer in a flash car anyway!You do hear some crap from people about EVs all of which have little to no experience with them lol
Don’t know what they are missing, as you say, the are the perfect daily. I will never have an ICE car for a daily again.
Still plenty of toys to enjoy when the notion takes me, like yourself. Best of both worlds!
I find having one of each makes you really enjoy the experience of the other even more.
All well said and done. But if your weekend toy is a 2 seater ( like many ) then the range becomes more of a factor.You do hear some crap from people about EVs all of which have little to no experience with them lol
Don’t know what they are missing, as you say, the are the perfect daily. I will never have an ICE car for a daily again.
Still plenty of toys to enjoy when the notion takes me, like yourself. Best of both worlds!
I find having one of each makes you really enjoy the experience of the other even more.
Yeah @chrisdromore even with those costs it would still be more economical in terms of mpg than any diesel I’ve owned or know of.
My work daily i30 1.6crdi is averaging low-mid 50’s at best and that’s a mix of urban and extra urban. It’s quoted on paper as capable of combined 65-70 average but it gets nowhere near it, I don’t think any diesel does unless you are always doing steady 60mph runs and not near the city, any sort of heavy traffic commute kills the mpg. The etron is still a bit cheaper to run using the home charger and if you manage to get a public charger say once a week then even better.
Pete I am all for it. I have solar myself and have the space to charge. All the comments on topping up etc make sense.@chrisdromore you are setting parameters that are for a fail there immediately. That like me saying I want a sea view apartment in portrush for £90k because you can have an apartment in Divis for cheap. They are both homes, right?
I didn’t buy an EV because it was a cheap car to buy. I have no interest in running about in some old diesel ****box at 10k that needs constant maintenance etc been there done that.
I bought a car that was when compared for other ICE cars like for like on price - cheaper to own overall by some margin, better to drive, more spec, speed lol
It’s a 60k car so comparing it a 10k car is a comparison I don’t understand lol
Range isn’t an issue, I have done over 6k miles in 3 months. I have a range of 300miles give or take. Even with that you don’t drive an EV like a ICE you don’t run the charge all the way down and then fill it up, you top it up as you go. It takes a few weeks for that to click when you are so used to a fuel gauge and how you get fuel but once you do it is so much less hassle to own than an ICE. No more standing about in the cold and rain and filling a tank etc. I have my car on a charger in 30sec.
Also imagine if you could be out for dinner, or at the cinema, shopping etc and someone was topping up your petrol tank while you were doing it. Even enough that the to and from journey was covered. And that the top up was free, you would think it was great right? Well that’s what is amazing about an EV.
Sunday night I went out for dinner, added 25% range while I was parked in the car park that I would have been parked in anyway. Range isn’t the issue 95% imagine it will be, you just can’t think how it works until you have one and then it makes sense. Certainly with the battery capacity of a tesla it does anyway..
When did a 10k car become a ****box?
As an owner of a Nissan Leaf thats 15 months old, range is absolutely an issue so am not buying that it’s not. This is a 30k car that struggles to make 100 miles at min no matter what way I drive it and how cautious I am in it re eco mode etc. It’s been in to Nissan 5 times and Nissan uk involved and I’ve been told it’s within tolerances. That’s pathetic .. 100 miles and when it’s cold less… wouldn’t have another leaf about me, but as above have to be prepared to buy more expensive to get decent range etc.
Also as per talk, strong chance the free chargers won’t be free anymore at some point next year, and generally speaking good luck trying to get a charger when you are out.
Ev definite benefits … but lots to still be developed to make it a great thing, and buy the right car that says you will get big range.
Maybe I have a lemon not a leafI g
I get 140 miles all the time ATM, I'll get more in the warmer weather as I did manage 170 miles when I got it. I always drive in ECO and D drive mode, I drive in ECO as I actually prefer it anyway, normal mode has a very sensitive throttle whereas ECO has a linear throttle and is no slower on full throttle.
I do tend to drive easier in it than in ICE cars, well more thoughtfully in terms of keeping the speed at 65 max most of the time and coasting down to lights and junctions. I do generally do that in all cars but more so in the Leaf. I never understand the guys that overtake going down a slip road to a red light, idiots.Maybe I have a lemon not a leaf
That tissue comment is awesome - what the fck was everyone breathing ? CrazyI watched an old 70's movie on TV last night based in London and the amount of smoke haze from the vehicles was unbelievable. I remember the first time I went into London and blew my nose and it came out black on the tissue. I love my old petrol cars but EV's in densely populated areas is the way to go. Getting harder to get a charger now as there are so many EV's on the road from when I started 4 years ago.
Your absolutely right , it just down to personal circumstances. I was gagging to get a tesla twin motor, but in the end I just decided to let it all pan out a bit longer.Maybe ****box is a little harsh but it’s getting you a 100k 320d that is about to ruin your life with turbos, timing chains etc then you still have to fuel it, tax it, service it etc
True it will also get you some fresh mono box but I’m a car enthusiast I am never, ever, ever even going to consider driving something like that
@chrisdromore I see your point and I can see the merit in it. I am only looking at it objectively for what someone would be buying brand new for equivalent money. It will definitely be cheaper in an EV as an overall experience.
It depends on what your draw to it is I guess. Mine wasn’t economy, but it certainly has made a huge difference to my pocket vs the alternatives at similar budget.
But the main point I guess is that the range thing really isn’t going to be the issue a lot of people think it is. If you can charge at home or work, they really work. You just need to readjust how you think about what range means.
For me cheap motoring means cheap to buy and cheap to run.
Everyone that has been critical to me has never actually owned/driven an EV; I met a guy at a charge point the other day and he asked me if it was a lot of hassle charging and owning it - I replied by saying that if he thought it was going to be hassle then it probably would be for him! We all convince ourselves of things when we want to like buying that really fast car because it has some great safety features!!You do hear some crap from people about EVs all of which have little to no experience with them lol
Don’t know what they are missing, as you say, the are the perfect daily. I will never have an ICE car for a daily again.
Still plenty of toys to enjoy when the notion takes me, like yourself. Best of both worlds!
I find having one of each makes you really enjoy the experience of the other even more.
London is just an overpopulated ****hole. I'd say it's worse now than in the 70'sI watched an old 70's movie on TV last night based in London and the amount of smoke haze from the vehicles was unbelievable. I remember the first time I went into London and blew my nose and it came out black on the tissue. I love my old petrol cars but EV's in densely populated areas is the way to go. Getting harder to get a charger now as there are so many EV's on the road from when I started 4 years ago.
Let's face it though, most EV's do not do 300 miles.Range isn’t an issue, I have done over 6k miles in 3 months. I have a range of 300miles give or take.