No reverse lights, rear parking sensors, fog lights and windscreen washer

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Wondering if anyone has further insight into an issue im having on my 2013 Passat CC (auto tdi). Basically the other day i was trying to play about in coding my folding mirrors to auto fold (cant get that working), however, when entering the security access code and selecting 'DO IT' VCDS froze and went non responsive for a minute or so, i ended up having to force close the program. Since this happened i have lost my reverse lights, rear parking sensors, front/rear fog lights (all other lights fine) and my windscreen washer (headlight washer fine). I have checked all the fuses on the side of the dash and in the tray beside the battery and all appear to be fine.

I have done a VCDS autoscan which has flagged a number of errors, a lot specifically on 09 - central electrics

Code:
Chassis Type: 3C-VW46 (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 14 15 16 17 19 25 2E 42 44 46 4C 4F 52 53
          55 56 61 62 72

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
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Address 01: Engine
Cannot be reached

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 02E 300 058 L    HW: 02E 927 770 AL
   Component: GSG DSG AG6     512 3509
   Revision: 05551213    Serial number: 00001207180343
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 2313EF9187D606C2329-8076

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 3AA-614-109.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 614 109 BK    HW: 3AA 614 109 BK
   Component: J104   C2 450M VD96 0024
   Revision: --H07---    Serial number: 00000006228396
   Coding: 0008124
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 77ABEBC163CEBA623E1-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC
Cannot be reached

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 3AA-937-087.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 937 087 J    HW: 3AA 937 087 J
   Component: BCM PQ47 H++  421 1465
   Revision: BD421001  
   Coding: 000800000800000000880080B40089E4237D000860200720E484462400C1
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   VCID: 41DF4519718A34D2405-8014

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 955 119 G    HW: 3C8 955 119 G
   Component: WWS464 130612  010 0604
   Serial number: 130612
   Coding: 00B795

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 547     HW: 5Q0 955 547
   Component: RLFS  024 0042
   Serial number: Y12M09D19H00M57S52S4
   Coding: 0228DD

10 Faults Found
00059 - Terminal 30 for Interior Lighting
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 190
                    Mileage: 165237 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.01.13
                    Time: 00:24:56

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 Off
                    Voltage: 12.05 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

00473 - Control Module for Elect. Park/Hand Brake (J540)
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 190
                    Mileage: 165237 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.01.13
                    Time: 18:16:39

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 11.95 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        ON

00833 - Signal for Activation of Heated Windshield
            009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101001
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 190
                    Mileage: 165237 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.01.13
                    Time: 00:24:56

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 Off
                    Voltage: 12.05 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

00834 - Signal for Activation of Heated Rear Window
            009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101001
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 190
                    Mileage: 165237 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.01.13
                    Time: 00:24:56

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 Off
                    Voltage: 12.10 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

00924 - Relay for Headlamp Cleaning System (J39)
            009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 190
                    Mileage: 165237 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.01.13
                    Time: 00:29:28

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 Off
                    Voltage: 12.10 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500)
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 190
                    Mileage: 165237 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.01.13
                    Time: 18:16:41

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 11.95 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        ON

01518 - Bulb for Back-Up Lights; Left (M16)
            010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 7
                    Reset counter: 190
                    Mileage: 165050 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.12.26
                    Time: 11:49:14

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 11.40 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF

01519 - Bulb for Back-Up Lights; Right (M17)
            010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 5
                    Reset counter: 190
                    Mileage: 165050 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.12.27
                    Time: 13:30:56

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 11.40 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF

01520 - Rain and Light Recognition Sensor (G397)
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 190
                    Mileage: 164916 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.12.21
                    Time: 16:27:60

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 12.80 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF

02723 - Control Circuit for Power Supply Relay (Terminal 50)
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 9
                    Reset counter: 150
                    Mileage: 165237 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.01.13
                    Time: 17:51:54

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 Off
                    Voltage: 12.20 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist
Cannot be reached

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Address 14: Susp. Elect. (J250)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 3C0 907 376 A    HW: 3C0 907 376
   Component: DAEMPFUNGS-SG H07 0071
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 12091202660002
   Coding: 010180
   Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
   VCID: 270BFB81FFEEEAE26E1-8072

1 Fault Found
00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 190
                    Mileage: 165247 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.01.18
                    Time: 15:02:09

             Freeze Frame:


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Address 15: Airbags
Cannot be reached

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:* Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 3C5 953 501 BG    HW: 5K0 953 569 T
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   014 0140
   Revision: FF010041    Serial number: 20120912101304
   Coding: 0982270000
   Shop #: WSC 00015 115 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS A03004
   ROD: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS.rod (VIN: N/A)
   VCID: 6B83C7B123060E82CA9-803E

   Multifunction steering wheel control module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 537 D    HW: 3C8 959 537 D  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TK6  H07 0022
   Coding: E20000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 3C8-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 3C8 920 971 A    HW: 3C8 920 971 A
   Component: KOMBI         H05 0705
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 440D01
   Shop #: WSC 05314 115 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW46.rod (VIN: N/A)
   VCID: 2B0307B1E386CE828A9-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AE    HW: 7N0 907 530 AE
   Component: J533  Gateway H46 1633
   Revision:   H46       Serial number: 090912F1003132
   Coding: 469007
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   VCID: 73B3DFD17BB6D642029-8026

1 Fault Found
01305 - Databus for Infotainment
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 14
                    Reset counter: 190
                    Mileage: 165241 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.01.14
                    Time: 11:59:35


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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 3C0-959-433-25.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 959 433     HW: 3AA 959 433
   Component:    IMMO         045 0400
   Revision: 00045000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
   Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
   VCID: 76B5E6C564C4C36A257-8022

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C0 905 861 J
   Component:    ELV          029 0380
   3C0905861J     ELV          029 0380 

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3
Cannot be reached

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 3C8 959 701     HW: 3C0 959 793 C
   Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0552
   Revision: 12110009    Serial number: 0005672483
   Coding: 3212B7
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X_VW32.rod
   VCID: 6D87C9A91D1200B2D4D-8038

   Slave Driver:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 704 D    HW: 3C8 959 794
   Component: J389__TSG-HR  004 0501
   Serial number: 00000003084358    
   Coding: 010090

1 Fault Found
66048 - Motor for Front Window Regulator
          B11EC 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 150


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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: None
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 P
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 209    3305
   Revision: 00H22000  
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 372B2BC1234E7A62FE1-8062

1 Fault Found
03803 - Steering Angle Sensor for Steering Aid
            000 - - - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Battery Volts: 12.2 V
                        PD
                    Temperature: 19.0°C
                    Count: 2
                    Steering Angle: 0.00°
                    Count: 1
                        SteerAng n.Init


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Address 46: Central Conv.
Cannot be reached

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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J520)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 532     HW: 7N0 907 530 AE
   Component: EZE_2         H46 1633
   Revision:   H46       Serial number: 090912F1003132
   Coding: 00000008
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   VCID: 6FBBD3A1179EF2A2E61-803A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 919 204 A    HW: 3C8 919 204 A
   Component: Analoguhr  005 0004

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 3C8 959 702     HW: 3C0 959 792 C
   Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0552
   Revision: 14110009    Serial number: 0005673327
   Coding: 3212B6
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X_VW32.rod
   VCID: 6E85CEA51014FBAAED7-803A

   Slave Passenger:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 703 D    HW: 3C8 959 795   Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J388__TSG-HL  004 0501
   Serial number: 00000003116611    
   Coding: 010090

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake
Cannot be reached

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J745)       Labels:. 5M0-907-357-V3.clb
   Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 F    HW: 7L6 907 357 C
   Component: AFS-ECU       H04 0111
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 07B600000B000200
   Shop #: WSC 05311 115 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSPt 002016
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSPt_VW46.rod
   VCID: 372B2BC12FCE7A62FE1-8062

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1T0 941 329     HW: 1T0 941 329   Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: LeiMo links  H06 0007
   Coding: 350000

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 1T0 941 329     HW: 1T0 941 329   Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: LeiMo rechts  H06 0007
   Coding: 350000

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 534     HW: 7N0 907 530 AE
   Component: Batt.regelung H46 1633
   Serial number: 090912F1003132
   Coding: 030F1859
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   VCID: 71BFD5D901AAE452F05-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 915 181 H    HW: 1K0 915 181 A
   Component: J367-BDM  H07 0180
   Serial number: 00000000008900187891

1 Fault Found
02256 - Quiescent Current
            001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00110001
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 190
                    Mileage: 165247 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.01.14
                    Time: 21:41:11


End----------(Elapsed Time: 02:09, VBatt start/end: 12.0V/12.0V)-----------

In the faults flagged under 09 Electrics - my power steering, electronic parking/hand brake, heated windscreen and rear screen all work fine and i put my hand over the light sensor and it makes the headlights come on ok. Maybe these are false negatives after having the battery disconnected for a while to test if this magically reset something. Could what i have posted be a coding thing messed up or has the J519 control unit been borked somehow, which is what im more thinking is likely? Or does anyone know of any other random fuses hidden apart from the 2 usual spots at side of dash and by battery?

P.S, if anyone has additional tips on how to turn off start/stop (as i have been trying this a number of time without success) and whether auto folding mirrors is possible on mine (the can be folded from driver door switch ok) that would be an additional bonus :laughing:
 
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Did you save a backup in VCDS beforehand? If so I'd send that back onto the car first and see if there's any difference?
Otherwise, I'm not just 100% sure with VCDS, but you could potentially get your basic coding back to defaults , or try a software update of the module that'll hopefully reset it to "new"?

Bit late now I know, but the likes of carista and similar apps dumb down a lot of the coding and can prevent mishaps.. Not that I'm an expert or anything but it definitely does save some bother. I've VCDS and the BMW softwares too and I'll use the phone apps/ a vgate adapter every time instead.


Otherwise, it's unfortunate timing and you've broken wires somewhere 🤔
 

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Typically i didnt take a backup this time as i only go along changing one or two things, so i know what to revert if something goes wrong, maybe more fool me?! How do you do a software update or the module or put coding back to default?

I would be very doubtful of the wires being broken, everything fine one moment and not the next, car hasnt left the driveway. I had thought reverse light switch as a possibility but too many other things gone wrong, plus i can manually turn on my reverse parking sensors to work and the measuring blocks on VCDS can see the car going into reverse, so the car does know the selection.

I do have OBDeleven also, but i prefer the layout of VCDS in some ways and being able to see it more clearly on laptop for coding.
 

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Parking sensors are related to the reverse lights not work, it's not getting the signal to tell the car it's in reverse. Screen washer could be a coding issue too, ie both have been turned off. Go through all the settings and see what's not "on" easier to do that explain.
Have a look in the central electrics or CANBUS coding.
 

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Went through central electrics and nothing obvious jumping out as to 'this should be on' going by title. Will have a bit more of a hoke on canbus side 👍
 

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Ok, went back into 09 Central electrics, turned the start/stop option back on, as it didnt work after trying to disable it, and low and behold, all is now working as normal. How ****ing weird that that knocks on to everything else.

So for future reference in case it comes in handy to anyone else to try/compare, my code went from and to as follows.

Start/stop 'disabled'
000800000800000000880080B40089E4237D000860200720E484462400C1
Start/stop 'activated'
000800000800000000880080B40089E4237D000860200720E484C72400C1

I believe it was byte 26, bit 7.

PHEW! Thanks for input everyone, always something stupid and a reminder to keep track/back up what you change.
 

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I’m unsure if it works in CCs but if you go into 19 and change the stop start voltage limit from (I think) 7.2 volts to 12 volts the start stop will never work and there will be no warning on the dash. This is via the ODIS system in work so unsure of channel numbers with VAGCOM.
 

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I’m unsure if it works in CCs but if you go into 19 and change the stop start voltage limit from (I think) 7.2 volts to 12 volts the start stop will never work and there will be no warning on the dash. This is via the ODIS system in work so unsure of channel numbers with VAGCOM.
I've read similar but also a lot of comments about how this can wreck the battery due to overcharging or something, supposedly.... Although after all these years of people trying it there's never been absolute confirmation. Will bear it in mind but have tried one thing in the CAN-gateway to test first :grinning:
 

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Not sufe if this will help at all, but in the Audi A6 C7 forum, there was a discussion about coding out Stop/Start. Apparently members had issues as well, but some folk found success with coding the car to remember the last button press, so when you turn Stop/Start off, the car remembers.
 

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Not sufe if this will help at all, but in the Audi A6 C7 forum, there was a discussion about coding out Stop/Start. Apparently members had issues as well, but some folk found success with coding the car to remember the last button press, so when you turn Stop/Start off, the car remembers.
Had seen the odd comment about that but haven't checked into the process. Don't happen to have that option to hand do you?
 

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You can get eliminators on eBay pretty cheap (about a tenner). It remembers last pressed setting and keeps it there. I deactivated it with OBDeleven on mine.
 

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Had seen the odd comment about that but haven't checked into the process. Don't happen to have that option to hand do you?
This was the vid that showed the process although this was on an audi a6.

I've no idea if coding would be similar on your cc.
 

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This was the vid that showed the process although this was on an audi a6.

I've no idea if coding would be similar on your cc.

Cheers for that @Cookies, but sadly nothing exists on mine for that channel. Went through them all but no mention of anything relating to stop/start either, so will do a bit more digging, but does seem to stump a lot of people outside of the voltage thing.

On the plus side, i have managed to work out how to enable auto-folding mirrors on these (seems to be different coding for RHD cars from my digging) even though it seems to have eluded most people for years :laughing:
 
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