jinjur
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Hi gang,
Bit of a long winded ramble here chaps so bear with me.
It is running on to 12 years since i took ownership of my little Clio 172 and she is very much a little pensioner now. You all know that I am very hands on with this little wagon and I am very confident on working on anything mechanical to the extent that the larger and more daunting jobs (timing belt, gearbox replacement etc) have been done by myself now. Mechanically, I have got to THAT place, you know the place. When something happens, I usually know the cause before even opening the bonnet....lol.
But.
As of late, my issue has been ( I suspect ) with electrics/electronics and its is becoming a real thorn in the side of the ownership of this wee yoke.
I could ramble on for ages about symptoms etc but IMO, they have been changing forever and might be completely irrelevant, if i detail the issue that I noted recently that might simplify things.
Wee trip up to the north coast required both cars (too many bicycles) so the Clio was filled to the guzzies with my fave, Texaco Super before the run. Somewhere around 60 quids worth.
I have been having really ****y misfires/hesitations for a long time and the parts cannon was fired a while back, all to no avail.
The misfires would typically be at low revs, any gear. Seems a bit ignition like but also, sometimes feels like a mixture misfire. Its the sort of misfire that would catch you out of pulling out of a junction or starting from standstill on a hill, you know....the WORST kind. Then, when you finally get past that the car is away like a rocket. No misfires when tramping on.........or so i thought.
So finally got into the cruise to the coast and into the "sit back and relax zone" after Applegreens @ Antrim and this is where i noticed that something was....different. Driving at 70 and lifting off the accelerator ever so slightly I can feel what I can only describe as a misfire that is REALLY hard to notice under the commotion/buzzing and exhaust snort. I know that sounds dippy but its how it feels. There are also certain speeds you get to (motorway speeds) that it categorically feels to be, well.....not smooth. Hesitating, misfiring.....but it is almost masked by the momentum of the car, you know? Yet when you get on the gas it goes.
Also, when you pull up to a sliproad junction at the end of a motorway run doing all this misfiring nonsense, it just drops to idle fine. No sign of misfiring. Of course when I pull away, 9 out of 10 times I will have a period of "oh my god this is where i die" hesitation then off she goes.
Last but very not least observation, on the run from Belfast to Bushmills, half of a brimmed tank is gone. And when the gauge says half is gone, I know that half is actually gone. Yet, the mpg for the run averaged at 30'ish which is very low but not low enough to warrant AMG Mercedes economy.
Something that I was ridiculed on Cliosport for perhaps sounds crazy but here it is. The car smells very VERY different. It used to smell very "petrol/cat/clean running" sort of thing but now, it smells........well..........like, you know the smell of a big power Jap car or......something........lol.......mad I know but the smell it makes has changed. I have also noted the exhaust cracks and squeaks wayyyyyy more after a run. This all sounds nuts I know but I just dont know if its relevant or not. I guess it is as the smell of the exhaust, the heat generated etc etc are all dictated by the running.
Things that were included in the part cannon
O2 sensors - both
plugs
plug leads
coil
crank sensor
Timing has been checked on multiple occasions (new cam caps every time fml) and it is ALWAYS on point. Yes, genuine Renault tools.
Would appreciate either:
Someone calling me a bawbag and telling me what I am missing
or
Someone recommending an utter wizard who can help me just fix this as the last time i posted on Cliosport I was told to put it on a boat to the mainland to get a specialist to fix it instead of me trying to work out what is wrong myself. Man, that place has changed, such a slagging I got
IMO, I need someone who isn't spooked by Renaults/F4R engines/Renault Clip diagnostics and someone who can just work this out.
I am losing it lads
J
Bit of a long winded ramble here chaps so bear with me.
It is running on to 12 years since i took ownership of my little Clio 172 and she is very much a little pensioner now. You all know that I am very hands on with this little wagon and I am very confident on working on anything mechanical to the extent that the larger and more daunting jobs (timing belt, gearbox replacement etc) have been done by myself now. Mechanically, I have got to THAT place, you know the place. When something happens, I usually know the cause before even opening the bonnet....lol.
But.
As of late, my issue has been ( I suspect ) with electrics/electronics and its is becoming a real thorn in the side of the ownership of this wee yoke.
I could ramble on for ages about symptoms etc but IMO, they have been changing forever and might be completely irrelevant, if i detail the issue that I noted recently that might simplify things.
Wee trip up to the north coast required both cars (too many bicycles) so the Clio was filled to the guzzies with my fave, Texaco Super before the run. Somewhere around 60 quids worth.
I have been having really ****y misfires/hesitations for a long time and the parts cannon was fired a while back, all to no avail.
The misfires would typically be at low revs, any gear. Seems a bit ignition like but also, sometimes feels like a mixture misfire. Its the sort of misfire that would catch you out of pulling out of a junction or starting from standstill on a hill, you know....the WORST kind. Then, when you finally get past that the car is away like a rocket. No misfires when tramping on.........or so i thought.
So finally got into the cruise to the coast and into the "sit back and relax zone" after Applegreens @ Antrim and this is where i noticed that something was....different. Driving at 70 and lifting off the accelerator ever so slightly I can feel what I can only describe as a misfire that is REALLY hard to notice under the commotion/buzzing and exhaust snort. I know that sounds dippy but its how it feels. There are also certain speeds you get to (motorway speeds) that it categorically feels to be, well.....not smooth. Hesitating, misfiring.....but it is almost masked by the momentum of the car, you know? Yet when you get on the gas it goes.
Also, when you pull up to a sliproad junction at the end of a motorway run doing all this misfiring nonsense, it just drops to idle fine. No sign of misfiring. Of course when I pull away, 9 out of 10 times I will have a period of "oh my god this is where i die" hesitation then off she goes.
Last but very not least observation, on the run from Belfast to Bushmills, half of a brimmed tank is gone. And when the gauge says half is gone, I know that half is actually gone. Yet, the mpg for the run averaged at 30'ish which is very low but not low enough to warrant AMG Mercedes economy.
Something that I was ridiculed on Cliosport for perhaps sounds crazy but here it is. The car smells very VERY different. It used to smell very "petrol/cat/clean running" sort of thing but now, it smells........well..........like, you know the smell of a big power Jap car or......something........lol.......mad I know but the smell it makes has changed. I have also noted the exhaust cracks and squeaks wayyyyyy more after a run. This all sounds nuts I know but I just dont know if its relevant or not. I guess it is as the smell of the exhaust, the heat generated etc etc are all dictated by the running.
Things that were included in the part cannon
O2 sensors - both
plugs
plug leads
coil
crank sensor
Timing has been checked on multiple occasions (new cam caps every time fml) and it is ALWAYS on point. Yes, genuine Renault tools.
Would appreciate either:
Someone calling me a bawbag and telling me what I am missing
or
Someone recommending an utter wizard who can help me just fix this as the last time i posted on Cliosport I was told to put it on a boat to the mainland to get a specialist to fix it instead of me trying to work out what is wrong myself. Man, that place has changed, such a slagging I got
IMO, I need someone who isn't spooked by Renaults/F4R engines/Renault Clip diagnostics and someone who can just work this out.
I am losing it lads
J
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