VW diesel emissions scandal

[Coog]

Anyone else catch this one? Has caused a huge drop in VAG share prices and could result in a $18bn fine!

VW Boss Sorry For US Car Emission Scandal

The scandal came to light on Friday when the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) said it had uncovered a "defeat device" that turned on emission controls when a vehicle was undergoing an emissions test.

It claimed that when cars were on the road during normal operations with the device turned off, the cars emitted as much as 40 times the level of pollutants allowed under US law.

The allegations affect 482,000 diesel cars sold in the US, including the 2009-15 Jetta, Beetle, Audi A3 and Golf, and the 2014-15 Passat.

The EPA said that under its rules, VW could face a fine of up to $18bn (£11.6bn).

 

[andy_gdon]

Ouch....someone's head is bound to roll over that!!

 

[Boabybooster]

I think the only plausible outcome for all this would be to ban all Vag diesels worldwide.

 

[Coog]

I think it's something like a $37k fine per vehicle sold. Madness!

 

[Phil_EK9]

I think the only plausible outcome for all this would be to burn all Vag diesels worldwide.

 

[Gaz]

Is this the same 'defeat device' that deactivates when a 'felt spec car accelerates in front of you, suddenly creating a toxic black cloud of death that contains at least 40,000 more times emission than is legally allowed?

 

[Boabybooster]

I think it's something like a $37k fine per vehicle sold. Madness!

Ah, so that's were the VAG tax comes from.

 

[BobSpounge]

'40 times the pollutants allowed under us law' LMFAO

Only 482,000 diesel cars sold? Belfast Audi sold more diesels than that last January.

 

[AC]

Sneaky bastids! Fuel of the devil, less diesels on the road the better in my mind.

Nothing worse than sitting behind a "well maintained" derv in traffic, with the windows up and fan off for fear of being suffocated by the distinct smell of death.

 

[jimcupra]

Your brave posting anything anti vw on here the vag hags will get their thongs in a twist .

 

[Mark_C]

TBH how many of the manufacturers aren't at it in some way or another - you only have to look at the claimed mpg figures that some (or indeed, all) put out - pure fantasy, achievable only in a lab on a rolling road with little resistance. Yeah, they're 'capable' of it, but you sure as hell aren't going to get anywhere near the claims. My wifes old DS3 was 'claimed' 75mpg - could get 46-50 out of it at a push (Although the trip computer always read optimistically in the 60's)

The systems are built to pass the test, they just got caught with that particular method

 

[Lyons]

Exactly Mark, they're all at it as there's no way any normal person can hit their claimed figures.

 

[mk2driver]

There is a difference between engineering something within the rules to get the best figures possible and actually cheating the test though. The reason fuel economy figures aren't representative is because the cycle that is run isn't representative of real world driving

 

[Paul RS]

Exactly Mark, they're all at it as there's no way any normal person can hit their claimed figures.

I've never had my emissions tested?

 

[Coog]

I've never had my emissions tested?

SWMBO said I should go to a specialist to get mine looked at.

 

[Paul RS]

Methanes that would be a good idea @Coog

 

[Rover Repair]

Ah it's horse****.

Same emissions cheats are used to get the mpg results and sure all them are lies.

This is just another excuse for EU to target diesel power in cars again.

Won't be an 18billion fine could cripple vw between jobs etc, Mark my words with German company and EU run by Germany basically won't even be 1% of that.

Load of ****. Who cares. We all know companies are pulling moves, as long as I get my £5 asda jeans I couldn't care lol.

 

[Rover Repair]

Oh it's USA. Oh **** them getting all high and mighty.

Country uses 19 million barrels of crude a day and only 0.3 billion of Biofuels.

What's a little reek when have the country drives v8s from the 70s getting 15mpg lol

 

[stevieturbo]

And you can bet all those diesel trucks in the US are so squeaky clean.....

There's bound to be more to this story

 

[Boabybooster]

Oh it's USA. Oh **** them getting all high and mighty.

Country uses 19 million barrels of crude a day and only 0.3 billion of Biofuels.

What's a little reek when have the country drives v8s from the 70s getting 15mpg lol

Woah there don't bring V8s into this, if everyone drove V8s we would have better summers. Maybe.

 

[Coog]

And you can bet all those diesel trucks in the US are so squeaky clean.....

Which I'm sure were built to whatever standards were expected at the time. The problem is the deception not the actual pollution (which I'm sure is a drop in the ocean!)

 

[stevieturbo]

The details at the minute seem more than vague...lets face it, how would the car know a test was being carried out in the first place ?

Exactly what is the test the refer to anyway ?

is it just the US or further afield ?

Would it be a good time to buy shares in VW ?

 

[matt1207]

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[rupertfinch]

A protectionist story generated in a desperate bid to prop up what remains of the US car industry. Murica! Fook yeah.

 

[RCT]

And you can bet all those diesel trucks in the US are so squeaky clean.....

There's bound to be more to this story

They don't want a manufacture from outside USA being at the top, so anything they can find, they will. Same with Toyota at the time of the pedal recall.