Porsche Cayenne - talk to me

[Ian A]

Taken a real notion for a Porsche Cayenne. One sits opposite my girlfriend’s place and it stares at me every time I’m leaving lol. Have absolutely no need for one, but sure why not get a jeep for a few months.

Anyone have experience of a second gen model? Would be the V6 diesel.

From reading around online they seem to be reliable enough, few and far between common problems. Plus a 2013-2014 model still looks fresh vs say an X5 of the same age / budget.

 

[Coog]

Can't help with the newer model Ian but I took a remapped MK1 Cayenne Turbo out a couple of weeks ago for a test drive and it was some job. Power was hilarious and could throw it around, yet super comfy, huge huge spec and 3.5t towing capacity. Reliability on them after the initial run seems to be pretty good too.

Newer version even sharper and the diesel is obviously well established being a VAG unit and capable of big miles. Rumour has it they're one of the best all round cars you can buy.

I think even the MK1 looks pretty good too, especially with a set of lowering links fitted to the air suspension models.

 

[Boydie]

@IL has one - love them myself

 

[Eager]

Similar to the Touareg underneath I think. Certainly share the prop shaft problem and was a Porsche shaft went in my dads touraeg the 3rd time it got replaced, as a vw one was going to be a few more days, same part, different badge

 

[Coog]

Pretty sure the prop shaft issue is sorted by the 2nd gen.

Its common enough now that there's a couple of easy fixes for it anyway. The bush can be replaced in situ and I think the replacement part is about £100. Or you can bodge it with coolant hose and cable ties for about a fiver which seems to last surprisingly well.

 

[Rocko]

The V6D seems pretty bulletproof. I did a bit of research before getting the Touareg, the main thing that concerned me was the PCM 3.0. The year that was within my budget didn't have the ability to stream spotify without spending £700+ or using an AUX.

 

[big_pete]

Looking at them myself ATM and so far can't find any real reliability issues and any customers we have with them have had no trouble either

 

[Coog]

The V6D seems pretty bulletproof. I did a bit of research before getting the Touareg, the main thing that concerned me was the PCM 3.0. The year that was within my budget didn't have the ability to stream spotify without spending £700+ or using an AUX.

Mate stuck a Dynavin into his and it's brilliant. It may be a £700 job in fairness, I didn't ask.

 

[IL]

I have had my 958 Cayenne for almost 2years now, I moved from an E71 X6 35d, to the V6D,

It was a huge move forward to the PDK box but it certainly wouldn't have the Go or Torque of the BMW Lump.

I've had no trouble with it, no Errors or faults with the Air suspension, they are prone to a rear crank oil seal issue, apparently an engine out repair.

I struggled to find one locally with a good history and the right options, Air suspension isn't in all of them & a lot of the wheel options are crap.

Overall its been a good purchase and ticks all my boxes.

 

[Eager]

Pretty sure the prop shaft issue is sorted by the 2nd gen.

Its common enough now that there's a couple of easy fixes for it anyway. The bush can be replaced in situ and I think the replacement part is about £100. Or you can bodge it with coolant hose and cable ties for about a fiver which seems to last surprisingly well.

Was about 3 year ago my dad replaced the last one, the Porsche guy that used to work out by ballyclare but now in J1 done the job. Then the transfer case clunk issue popped up and dad had enough, traded it in against a Tiguan.

 

[CS]

Remember speaking with a car dealer, decent knowledgeable guy, who sells lots of nice stock 30/40k ++ stuff and travels 100 mile round trip to work daily, albeit this was about 3 years ago. Out of all the cars on show which would you take
And there was some top end cars, he said the cayenne.

 

[Ian A]

The V6D seems pretty bulletproof. I did a bit of research before getting the Touareg, the main thing that concerned me was the PCM 3.0. The year that was within my budget didn't have the ability to stream spotify without spending £700+ or using an AUX.

Did I read somewhere you looked at the one for sale in J&F group? Thoughts?

Cheers for input everyone.

 

[big_pete]

Looked at it today, looks decent. Though think we are for going RR Spoet

 

[Rocko]

Did I read somewhere you looked at the one for sale in J&F group? Thoughts?

Cheers for input everyone.

Yes. Smells very, very badly of smoke inside. Crappy tyres, few marks, passenger rear door wouldn't open, parcel shelf was knackered. Felt like it's mileage if I'm honest.

Edit: The mechanic did say it hadn't been prepared for sale, but it had been there a while when we saw it.

 

[big_pete]

Yes. Smells very, very badly of smoke inside. Crappy tyres, few marks, passenger rear door wouldn't open, parcel shelf was knackered. Felt like it's mileage if I'm honest.

Edit: The mechanic did say it hadn't been prepared for sale, but it had been there a while when we saw it.

What one did you looked at there were two there today?

 

[Rocko]

Black one, 102k miles ish.

 

[st6phen]

I'm sorry for hijacking the thread, but didn't want to open a new one for a similar question. Taken a head stagger as well. I'm looking at a 2004 cayenne turbo. Anyone have any experience of them? Any engine issues, or common problems. Car has roughly 120k and full specialist history. Thanks in advance.

 

[G N K]

I'm sorry for hijacking the thread, but didn't want to open a new one for a similar question. Taken a head stagger as well. I'm looking at a 2004 cayenne turbo. Anyone have any experience of them? Any engine issues, or common problems. Car has roughly 120k and full specialist history. Thanks in advance.

@Coog Has a cracking one.

 

[Coog]

Yeah since my post above I ended up buying a '09 957 4.8 V8 S. They share quite a few bits with the 955 aside from engines and the front end and a few other options like PDCC.

It's been pretty reliable, only needed a parking sensor and Aircon sensor in the past year and a bit, both of which were generic VAG parts. Replaced brake discs and pads, tyres and added Bluetooth to it over the year. None of which were particularly expensive to be honest. Love it. Tows well, goes well, handles well with the PDCC and it has decent off-road ability. Good size, comfortable and for the most part feels premium. The seats for example have worn well, though it can be a bit rattly inside on the low profile tyres. Overall though it's been a good family load lugger with decent performance and handling.

As for the 955...

The engines in the turbos are pretty robust.

As the years went on they got more and more reliable. As far as I can remember the 04 was the first year for the turbo so there is chance of niggles.

Things to look for are ensuring it's had the cooling pipes under the intake replaced with metal ones. The original plastic ones crack and burst. The starter motor should have been done at that stage too if the pipes had let go as it's right below them and nearly always fails after getting drenched in coolant.

The centre bearing can fail on the prop shaft but it can be fixed cheaply nowadays with a kit, as above.

Valve block on the auto transmission can wear out or fail and can need replacing. That seems to be an early model problem mainly.

Turbo is air suspension so just check it works and the compressor isn't running on. Generally the air suspension is pretty reliable in them though.

Bore scoring is a thing but mostly limited to the 4.5 N/A not the turbo.

Servicing is 2 years or 20k miles which boggles me, especially on turbos so FSH on one with 120k is only a handful of stamps. Most enthusiasts over service them.

Timing chains can also be a problem. I've heard that they "definitely all go" from an armchair expert but reports seem to be fairly infrequent... that I can see.

I cant think of much else really. The way the turbo gets down the road is hilarious. There is nothing ticks every box like a 955 Cayenne Turbo for the money IMO.

They're also incredibly thirsty. Like £1 a mile round the town thirsty. Or £110 to Dublin airport chasing down (and passing) M cars thirsty lol

Totally worth it though.

Here's my 957. She's worked hard as a family and purveyor of s***e wagon.

 

[st6phen]

Yeah since my post above I ended up buying a '09 957 4.8 V8 S. They share quite a few bits with the 955 aside from engines and the front end and a few other options like PDCC.

It's been pretty reliable, only needed a parking sensor and Aircon sensor in the past year and a bit, both of which were generic VAG parts. Replaced brake discs and pads, tyres and added Bluetooth to it over the year. None of which were particularly expensive to be honest. Love it. Tows well, goes well, handles well with the PDCC and it has decent off-road ability. Good size, comfortable and for the most part feels premium. The seats for example have worn well, though it can be a bit rattly inside on the low profile tyres. Overall though it's been a good family load lugger with decent performance and handling.

As for the 955...

The engines in the turbos are pretty robust.

As the years went on they got more and more reliable. As far as I can remember the 04 was the first year for the turbo so there is chance of niggles.

Things to look for are ensuring it's had the cooling pipes under the intake replaced with metal ones. The original plastic ones crack and burst. The starter motor should have been done at that stage too if they pipes had let go as it's right below them and nearly always fails after getting drenched.

The centre bearing can fail on the prop shaft but it can be fixed cheaply nowadays with a kit, as above.

Valve block on the auto transmission can wear out or fail and can need replacing. That seems to be an early model problem mainly.

Turbo is air suspension so just check it works and the compressor isn't running on. Generally the air suspension is pretty reliable in them though.

Bore scoring is a thing but mostly limited to the 4.5 N/A not the turbo.

Servicing is 2 years or 20k miles which boggles me, especially on turbos so FSH on one with 120k is only a handful of stamps. Most enthusiasts over service them.

Timing chains can also be a problem. I've heard that they "definitely all go" from an armchair expert but reports seem to be fairly infrequent... that I can see.

I cant think of much else really. The way the turbo gets down the road is hilarious. There is nothing ticks every box like a 955 Cayenne Turbo for the money IMO.

They're also incredibly thirsty. Like £1 a mile round the town thirsty. Or £110 to Dublin airport chasing down (and passing) M cars thirsty lol

Totally worth it though.

Here's my 957. She's worked hard as a family and purveyor of s***e wagon.

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Thanks for the reply. That gives me plenty to go on and double check. This seems to be well enough looked after, but will check those things you mentioned. We've been told working from home now is the new norm, so I'll only be out on site 1 day a week. Rest of time at home, so it's time to do something responsible, and buy something that is horrendously thirsty. The thought of watching the fuel needle drop, driving into the town for a loaf, fills me with excitement. This has been the only benefit of lock down. Back to the fuel guzzlers

 

[Coog]

Thanks for the reply. That gives me plenty to go on and double check. This seems to be well enough looked after, but will check those things you mentioned. We've been told working from home now is the new norm, so I'll only be out on site 1 day a week. Rest of time at home, so it's time to do something responsible, and buy something that is horrendously thirsty. The thought of watching the fuel needle drop, driving into the town for a loaf, fills me with excitement. This has been the only benefit of lock down. Back to the fuel guzzlers

My commute is 3.2 miles and 4/5 days a week we use the rental heap so a tank lasts me a couple of months. That's £100 to about 120 miles though.

I had to cruise 2 hours for a trip to Enniskillen last year (2 hrs to nap my boys in the back) so was going easy and it was doing 25 mpg or so. Realistically that's as good as you'll get. But compare that to any other full size SUV never mind one with 450-520 bhp and actually it's pretty decent. For a jeep

Lots of parts shared with Touareg, there's loads being broke too so parts aren't too expensive tbh.

Oh and just remembered there's a coolant pipe back of the engine in the 955 turbo that can leak and is a pain to sort. Any coolant leak in general be very very careful with. Some are impossible to fix without major surgery.

 

[st6phen]

My commute is 3.2 miles and 4/5 days a week we use the rental heap so a tank lasts me a couple of months. That's £100 to about 120 miles though.

I had to cruise 2 hours for a trip to Enniskillen last year (2 hrs to nap my boys in the back) so was going easy and it was doing 25 mpg or so. Realistically that's as good as you'll get. But compare that to any other full size SUV never mind one with 450-520 bhp and actually it's pretty decent. For a jeep

Lots of parts shared with Touareg, there's loads being broke too so parts aren't too expensive tbh.

Oh and just remembered there's a coolant pipe back of the engine in the 955 turbo that can leak and is a pain to sort. Any coolant leak in general be very very careful with. Some are impossible to fix without major surgery.

Brilliant. Hopefully heading to see it next week, so I'll let you know how I get on. Thanks again. Much appreciated

 

[jonny.92]

UsedCarsNI.com - 2013 Porsche Cayenne V8 TURBO TIP S

 

[Coog]

That's where mine came from as it happens.

958's are lovely, especially in red. Really suits them. Far nicer interior than the last generation too. Would love a 958 turbo next to be honest.

 

[Chris100]

That red one is lovely, but it’s done 109k