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No, Mikklesen got a fine. Meeke gets a time penalty. No consistency in FIA rules. But sure, as long as the rules help VW 
New top 5 looks like this.
1. Ogier
2. Latvala +11.8
3. Mikkelsen +25.3
4. Hirovonen +1 27.2
5. Meeke +1.27.8
6. Ostberg +2.08.2
New top 5 looks like this.
1. Ogier
2. Latvala +11.8
3. Mikkelsen +25.3
4. Hirovonen +1 27.2
5. Meeke +1.27.8
6. Ostberg +2.08.2
Different rally, different rules by the governing body and stewards. No court ever gives the same time served in jail for the same crime. Who knows...both drivers got slapped, both suffer - just in different ways. Nobody wanted these outcomes sadly, but at least he hasn't crashed and can collect vital points. I doubt the conspiracy is present here.
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Who said VW bribed the stewards?
The point is, 3 rounds earlier Mikkelsen makes a bigger cut, contravening the FIA regulations and gets a 5000 euro fine. Meeke apparently breaks the same FIA rules and its now a time penalty and he must drop 1 place. So the rules have changed mid-season and there is no consistency.
Would Meeke have cut that corner in that fashion if he knew it would have cost him his place and a chance at a podium? No.
The point is, 3 rounds earlier Mikkelsen makes a bigger cut, contravening the FIA regulations and gets a 5000 euro fine. Meeke apparently breaks the same FIA rules and its now a time penalty and he must drop 1 place. So the rules have changed mid-season and there is no consistency.
Would Meeke have cut that corner in that fashion if he knew it would have cost him his place and a chance at a podium? No.
Nobody is defending them so calm down , but your statement "But sure, as long as the rules help VW " nearly means FIA did this on purpose to help VW. Nobody ever gets the same penalties in motorsport, in F1 sometimes they get grid penalty of 10 places, sometimes drive through. E Formula this morning witnessed a silly crash on last lap as well and again I am sure many fans are furious. It is just a thing of motorsport sadly - each accident may end up with different fines/penalties depending on stewards decisions/mood. Take the mistake on the chin I'd say, avoid cutting corners in the future, and bring back safe points. Better this than a crash he could have had there.
" nearly means FIA did this on purpose to help VW. Nobody ever gets the same penalties in motorsport, in F1 sometimes they get grid penalty of 10 places, sometimes drive through. E Formula this morning witnessed a silly crash on last lap as well and again I am sure many fans are furious. It is just a thing of motorsport sadly - each accident may end up with different fines/penalties depending on stewards decisions/mood. Take the mistake on the chin I'd say, avoid cutting corners in the future, and bring back safe points. Better this than a crash he could have had there.Cess
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A central tenet of all sport is that rules are applied equally to ensure fair play. I don't know anything about the rules of Formula E of Formula One, so I cannot comment on how those rules are applied. In addition, I'm not sure what the relevance of the references are, considering they are entirely different disciplines.
Massive cuts were always part and parcel of rallying. Half the field in these videos below would have got fines or time penalties or whatever punishment was decided. For the record, I didn't agree with Mikkelsen's fine in Poland either.
Massive cuts were always part and parcel of rallying. Half the field in these videos below would have got fines or time penalties or whatever punishment was decided. For the record, I didn't agree with Mikkelsen's fine in Poland either.
These were different times, safety wasn't the main concern there, back in those days rally was much different - H&S has now changed all the rallying aspect. Fixing the car and driving in whatever condition was OK then, now a small scratch on rollcage and that's it. Rules change with time and safety is now main concern for organizers. In this rally that is what contributed a bit more to the penalty I think. Nobody wanted him to get it, but I imagine the scandal VW would have put up after he got penalised for that. No point in arguing with you anyways, move on - 1 more day and anything can change.
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