WRC 2016 : All Chat Here
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It's nowhere big as Audi pulling out of WEC tbh. That's a huge hole in that series. Plus the VW domination was strangling the life out of the championship as an actual competition. Sad to lose a manufacturer, but if I were to pick one to lose, it would have been VW. They came in, threw the kitchen sink at winning and walked off with a load of titles. Nothing in the rules saying they can't, but they were outspending everybody to do so. They created an arms race that only Hyundai have had the resources to equal in recent years.
The VW period has been as predictable and dull as the former period of Cirtroen domination. WRC needs a budget cap.
That said, I won a WRC plus subscription from them a couple of years ago, so thanks for that lads. Already had one, so gave it away.
The VW period has been as predictable and dull as the former period of Cirtroen domination. WRC needs a budget cap.
That said, I won a WRC plus subscription from them a couple of years ago, so thanks for that lads. Already had one, so gave it away.
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WRC lost mutiple world champions Lancia and life went on. Ditto Subaru & Mitsubishi. By the time Monte Carlo comes round, the whole VW thing will be a footnote in rallying history.
It's a level playing field next year with four teams with hopefully 12 new cars. It could be the best season since 2003 and boy is it overdue.
Skoda sell competition cars, so even if the WRC2 team goes (and there's no indication it will) that programme is intended to wash it's own face.
It's a level playing field next year with four teams with hopefully 12 new cars. It could be the best season since 2003 and boy is it overdue.
Skoda sell competition cars, so even if the WRC2 team goes (and there's no indication it will) that programme is intended to wash it's own face.
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well said ye aul beard ye !
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Can't argue with that @Sam. I still think the FIA and promotor are failing world rallying. I also don't think the current direction of travel is the right direction to take the sport.
Its like history repeating. When the FIA wanted to reduce costs, even things up and adopt a variant of the then S2000 rules, Subaru objected, campaigned for 1600cc WRC cars and then promptly pulled out.
Its like history repeating. When the FIA wanted to reduce costs, even things up and adopt a variant of the then S2000 rules, Subaru objected, campaigned for 1600cc WRC cars and then promptly pulled out.
Presuming the R5 cars will be sold?
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Yeah, they're focusing on customer racing across all motorsport.
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Wouldn't be hard @weeloaney
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Off topic: but the Mirage isn't a proper R5 car as it's not homologated. Mitsubishi had no involvement with the car at all - the engineering and development was initially undertaken by a Scandinavian company, who hoped Mitsubishi would come on board. That company then sold everything to Spencer Sport in Wales who have tried to develop it further. Garry Jennings has been flirting with it because there are no other cars in that category available in RHD.
Volkswagen have kept on their entire motorsport division who were responsible for the Polo R WRC. I think it's fairly safe to assume based on that, plus the success of the Fabia R5 that the Polo R5 will be very good.
Volkswagen have kept on their entire motorsport division who were responsible for the Polo R WRC. I think it's fairly safe to assume based on that, plus the success of the Fabia R5 that the Polo R5 will be very good.
Yes mirage not Colt. Didn't realise it had nothing to do with mitsubushi.
There's no doubting the Polo R5 will be brilliant, just a pity we don't get to see there '17 wrc polo.
Wondering will the Moffet brothers sell the Fiesta and buy Polo's
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Playing devil's advocate, when the R5 class was introduced in 2013, should they have been for WRC instead of WRC2? They're significantly cheaper, don't seem to have much issue selling when running customer programmes, etc.
Although they definitely wouldn't provide the "spectacle" that the FIA want for the 2017 season cars.
Although they definitely wouldn't provide the "spectacle" that the FIA want for the 2017 season cars.
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Regulations regarding running order have been changed for 2017.
From Monte Carlo the championship leader will be first on the road on the opening day of the event.
For the remaining days it will be in reverse classification order in the same way they did in 2014.
From Monte Carlo the championship leader will be first on the road on the opening day of the event.
For the remaining days it will be in reverse classification order in the same way they did in 2014.
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So basically a bit of a half way house then? Feels like all permutations have already been tried and failed, however they do it somebody will have an advantage. I guess any way is fine as long as it doesn't lead to the tactical nonsense going on for a while where people were deliberately losing time on day two to get optimum start position on the last day . . .
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