M3 crushed for being cut and shut

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The most modern bmw I’ve been under is an e46 and the only ones I’m familiar with is the e36 and z3 🤣
 

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gary1365 said:
Unless we have the car infront of us we’re never going to know. It does say 2 estate cars were used to make the body and the panoramic roof so could be more to it than just a 320d estate with 2 stolen m3s bolted and welded to it.

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Some things on here craic me up. Jumping to all sorts of conclusions without any facts, defending the car and some how thinking it just had some panels bolted on. Car enthusiasts at times I don’t get, along with we openly gloss over selling of cars chassis plates and log books, which get transferred into stolen cars or on here I got abuse for highlighting that a car was clocked to other people that may have been interested in it. Strange world at times.

M cars and RS cars are stolen regular, nearly uninsurable at times in some areas. There can be no doubt these parts make there way into show cars like this.
kind of like how a jap car on here years ago was found to have the engine from a stolen car
 

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Eager said:
Some things on here craic me up. Jumping to all sorts of conclusions without any facts, defending the car and some how thinking it just had some panels bolted on. Car enthusiasts at times I don’t get, along with we openly gloss over selling of cars chassis plates and log books, which get transferred into stolen cars or on here I got abuse for highlighting that a car was clocked to other people that may have been interested in it. Strange world at times.
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Who’s defending it!? It’s simply been highlighted that the likes of an M3 estate conversion is made using bolt/weld on parts from other cars. The police in the article seem to have implied this process is the dangerous “cut and shut” to dramatise the whole thing a bit. The only issue is if the donor parts are from a stolen car.
 

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Did someone not say they took the roof off the 320d shell to install one with a Panoramic roof?

Although it's common enough to do, that kinda ticks the box for them to use the term 'Cut & Shut'.
 

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KevM said:
Did someone not say they took the roof off the 320d shell to install one with a Panoramic roof?

Although it's common enough to do, that kinda ticks the box for them to use the term 'Cut & Shut'.
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It’s was me it’s in the article 2 estate cars were used but they don’t elaborate on how they were used.
Two estate vehicles had been used to create the main body and the panoramic roof.
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Well, the rozzers may stay off Bimmerpost forum etc or they'll have a 💩 hemorrhage.

It's common practice these days to remove roof skins to replace with a pan roof or carbon roof etc.

The whole article is badly written. An E91 or F31 can be converted very simply, the only welding that needs done is the rear quarter to fit the wide arch. It's no more invasive than replacing a rear quarter after an accident.

There is a guy who built an E91 M3, F81 M3 who is now halfway through a G Series Touring M3 conversion.
 
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“Cut and shut” has a well understood meaning. The police force didn’t show anything that demonstrated this was a “cut and shut”. People are rightly sceptical of the police, and what they see and social media, especially also when it comes to technical stuff.
 

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Eager said:
Some things on here craic me up. Jumping to all sorts of conclusions without any facts, defending the car and some how thinking it just had some panels bolted on. Car enthusiasts at times I don’t get, along with we openly gloss over selling of cars chassis plates and log books, which get transferred into stolen cars or on here I got abuse for highlighting that a car was clocked to other people that may have been interested in it. Strange world at times.

M cars and RS cars are stolen regular, nearly uninsurable at times in some areas. There can be no doubt these parts make there way into show cars like this.
kind of like how a jap car on here years ago was found to have the engine from a stolen car
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Seemingly the only person jumping to conclusions is you. Don't see anyone defending the car, simply pointing out that a social media post by the police shouldn't be taken as gospel either. Barring potentially a panoramic roof conversion which the details aren't overly clear on really, yes, it pretty much is bolt on work to do that conversion.

You needn't get into historic race cars or you'd have even more to gurn at than usual. 😂

Obviously using stolen parts, cloned identities etc is wrong. Nobody has said it isn't, and certainly don't need you to act as the only one who finds that abhorrent. The 'sexing up' of issues and total lack of any info of actually dealing with the crimes is what has been pointed out.

Also...wonder if that side of the story is more true?
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Eager said:
Some things on here craic me up. Jumping to all sorts of conclusions without any facts, defending the car and some how thinking it just had some panels bolted on. Car enthusiasts at times I don’t get, along with we openly gloss over selling of cars chassis plates and log books, which get transferred into stolen cars or on here I got abuse for highlighting that a car was clocked to other people that may have been interested in it. Strange world at times.

M cars and RS cars are stolen regular, nearly uninsurable at times in some areas. There can be no doubt these parts make there way into show cars like this.
kind of like how a jap car on here years ago was found to have the engine from a stolen car
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You woke up and choose violence...... people are just having some light hearted discussions with theories and their own two cents, they arent running to the police screaming "HOW VERY DARE YOU".

Its a Monday and its raining, lets not make today worse hahaha
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Seemingly the only person jumping to conclusions is you. Don't see anyone defending the car, simply pointing out that a social media post by the police shouldn't be taken as gospel either. Barring potentially a panoramic roof conversion which the details aren't overly clear on really, yes, it pretty much is bolt on work to do that conversion.

You needn't get into historic race cars or you'd have even more to gurn at than usual. 😂

Obviously using stolen parts, cloned identities etc is wrong. Nobody has said it isn't, and certainly don't need you to act as the only one who finds that abhorrent. The 'sexing up' of issues and total lack of any info of actually dealing with the crimes is what has been pointed out.

Also...wonder if that side of the story is more true?
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And the other side of the story lands.

What a mess that is, a car illegally destroyed and a businesses repuation now in question.
 

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gpaevo said:
Well, the rozzers may stay off Bimmerpost forum etc or they'll have a 💩 hemorrhage.

It's common practice these days to remove roof skins to replace with a pan roof or carbon roof etc.

The whole article is badly written. An E91 or F31 can be converted very simply, the only welding that needs done is the rear quarter to fit the wide arch. It's no more invasive than replacing a rear quarter after an accident.

There is a guy who built an E91 M3, F81 M3 who is now halfway through a G Series Touring M3 conversion.
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Aren't BMW releasing an actual G series touring m3? Hopefully he hasn't just missed the news lol
 

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gary1365 said:
The way I read it I thought they meant it was spot welded together and was well disguised with filler and paint. I remember in the 90s hearing about people being killed by cut and shuts snapping in half.

Maybe it wasn’t legally on the road or maybe they used a vin and v5 from a car that wasn’t declared as written off. I’d love to know more about it and see a pic of the car before it was destroyed 🤣
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My aunt and uncle moved to Corfu years ago and ran about in a wee Citroen 2CV. It broke in half one day when they were driving along in it.
 
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