The Two Port Porker 944's
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andy9eleven
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Seems like they are coming together nicely, good work! Good to see some love being shown to these cars nowadays.
seanmooney
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That's a winner right there.. Lovely colour, wheels and ride height..
So much want for one of these.. Was watching car SOS and there was a red one in the background of the house they collected the car from.
I'm prob just going to keep seeing them until I get one
CHARLIE11
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Two wise boys to be cruising around in these, do they diff?
Brilliant projects, will look class when finished
BarryPort
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Two wise boys to be cruising around in these, do they diff?
Brilliant projects, will look class when finished
They don't thankfully, no LSD.
If they did there would be none left.. or maybe they'd be regarded as heros in NI? One of the two..
Just glad we managed to get hold of a couple before they become unaffordable for the average Joe.
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Is there much difference between the 944 2.5 and 2.7 models apart form the engine?
TalkToFrank
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Lol Shaun, aye I'll see about getting one fitted! We'll be as happy as pigs in ***** once they both done and cruising about in them!
James got my front springs fitted today, he'll be tackling the rear tomorrow, whilst he still waits on the rest to arrive
James got my front springs fitted today, he'll be tackling the rear tomorrow, whilst he still waits on the rest to arrive
BarryPort
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I read something about refined handling (to an already well balanced car) but can't find where I read it to quote you.
Sexy sexy just arrived
But can't see 7.5" et23 & 9" et15 fitting. I'm sure Laurence will give it a go!
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Anyone know what tire sizes would be best to try, minor bit of stretch but not taking the pis5?
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Turbo has an LSD iirc.
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There was a Porsche bulletin about 17" wheels on 944s , which tells you all about how to do this, posted below:
ARTICLE BEGINNING
TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN : 17 INCH APPROVED WHEELS & TIRES
Model(s):
1987-On Porsche 944 (with M30 option) 1987-On Porsche 944S (with M30 option)
1987-On Porsche 944 T (with M30 option)
1988 Porsche 944 Turbo S
1989 Porsche 944 Turbo
1989-On Porsche 944 S2
Group: 4
Bulletin No.: 9303
Date: September 28, 1993
SERVICE INFORMATION
Concern: Installing 17" Porsche wheels on vehicles previously equipped with 16" wheels.
SERVICE PROCEDURE
Installation Information
1. Front and rear fender well lips must be reworked and/or checked for adequate tire clearance. See Fig. 1.
2. Suspension travel must also be checked. Parts such as brake lines, hoses and brackets must have adequate clearance.
3. New caster eccentrics, rear mounts and nuts must be installed in the front control arms. This change is necessary due to a change in caster specification on vehicles equipped with Porsche 17" wheels. The specification for vehicles equipped with 17" wheels is 3'-15'-45. See Fig. 2.
4. Vehicles must have a rear stabilizer bar.
5. When adjusting vehicles to new caster specification, all alignment values should be checked at that time.
6. When summer tires are used on vehicles with 17" Porsche wheels, snow chains cannot be used. If winter tires are used, only snow chains with Porsche Part Number 911 361 924 00 may be used.
7. Tire pressures for front and rear 17" Porsche wheels is to be set at 2.5 bar (36 PSI) at approximately 20'C (68'F).
8. When using this rim and tire combination, a 17mm spacer plate must be installed on the rear wheel hub. The customer must be informed that if the emergency wheel is needed, the spacer must be removed.
9. Not for Cabriolet vehicles.
APPROVED WHEEL & TIRE TABLE
Tire size Rim size Offset Position Note
225/45 ZR 17 7,t Jxl7 AH 65mm Front Summer tires
255/40 ZR 17 9 Jxl7 AH 55mm Rear (See installation information A through G.)
225/45 ZR 17 8 Jxl7 AH 52mm Front Summer tires
255/40 ZR 17 94.@ JX17 AH 68nm Rear (See installation information A through I.)
205/50 R 17 7;-i Jxl7 AH 65mm Front Winter tires
225/45 R 17 8 Jxl7 AH 52mm Rear (See installation information A through G.)
NOTE: When using this rim and tire combination, a 17mm spacer plate must be installed on the rear wheel hub. The customer must be informed that if the emergency wheel is needed, the spacer must be removed.
PARTS INFORMATION TABLE
Description Part Number Quantity
Spacer Ring 951 331 611 02 2
Wheel Bolt 904 341 671 00 10
Wheel Nut 999 1 82 003 36 10
APPROVED WHEEL PART NUMBER TABLE
Size Offset Part Number
7;-i Jxl7 AH 65mm 96536212405
8 Jxl7 AH 52mm 96536212601
9 Jxl7 AH 55mm 96536212800
91.@ Jxl7 AH 68mm 96536212805
APPROVED TIRES AND SIZES (SUMMER VERSIONS) TABLE
Size Makes
225/45 ZR 17 Front Bridgestone Expedia S-01 Nl
255/40 ZR 17 Rear Continental Sport Contact CZ 91 NO
Pirelli P700-Z NO
Yokohama A 008P NO
Michelin MXX 3 NO or MXX NO Pilot SX
APPROVED TIRES AND SIZES (WINTER VERSIONS) TABLE
Size Makes
205/50 R 17 89 H M&S Front Bridgestone WT05
225/45 R 17 90 H M&S Rear Continental TS 750
Pirelli winter 210 Performance
SUSPENSION PART NUMBER TABLE
Suspension Parts
1. Rear Mount
Part Number Quantity Required
951 341 023 00 2 each
2. Eccentric 951 341 431 02 2 each
3. Nut (torque to 100 Nm) 900 910 115 02 4 each
END OF ARTICLE
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There was a Porsche bulletin about 17" wheels on 944s , which tells you all about how to do this, posted below:
ARTICLE BEGINNING
TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN : 17 INCH APPROVED WHEELS & TIRES
Model(s):
1987-On Porsche 944 (with M30 option) 1987-On Porsche 944S (with M30 option)
1987-On Porsche 944 T (with M30 option)
1988 Porsche 944 Turbo S
1989 Porsche 944 Turbo
1989-On Porsche 944 S2
Group: 4
Bulletin No.: 9303
Date: September 28, 1993
SERVICE INFORMATION
Concern: Installing 17" Porsche wheels on vehicles previously equipped with 16" wheels.
SERVICE PROCEDURE
Installation Information
1. Front and rear fender well lips must be reworked and/or checked for adequate tire clearance. See Fig. 1.
2. Suspension travel must also be checked. Parts such as brake lines, hoses and brackets must have adequate clearance.
3. New caster eccentrics, rear mounts and nuts must be installed in the front control arms. This change is necessary due to a change in caster specification on vehicles equipped with Porsche 17" wheels. The specification for vehicles equipped with 17" wheels is 3'-15'-45. See Fig. 2.
4. Vehicles must have a rear stabilizer bar.
5. When adjusting vehicles to new caster specification, all alignment values should be checked at that time.
6. When summer tires are used on vehicles with 17" Porsche wheels, snow chains cannot be used. If winter tires are used, only snow chains with Porsche Part Number 911 361 924 00 may be used.
7. Tire pressures for front and rear 17" Porsche wheels is to be set at 2.5 bar (36 PSI) at approximately 20'C (68'F).
8. When using this rim and tire combination, a 17mm spacer plate must be installed on the rear wheel hub. The customer must be informed that if the emergency wheel is needed, the spacer must be removed.
9. Not for Cabriolet vehicles.
APPROVED WHEEL & TIRE TABLE
Tire size Rim size Offset Position Note
225/45 ZR 17 7,t Jxl7 AH 65mm Front Summer tires
255/40 ZR 17 9 Jxl7 AH 55mm Rear (See installation information A through G.)
225/45 ZR 17 8 Jxl7 AH 52mm Front Summer tires
255/40 ZR 17 94.@ JX17 AH 68nm Rear (See installation information A through I.)
205/50 R 17 7;-i Jxl7 AH 65mm Front Winter tires
225/45 R 17 8 Jxl7 AH 52mm Rear (See installation information A through G.)
NOTE: When using this rim and tire combination, a 17mm spacer plate must be installed on the rear wheel hub. The customer must be informed that if the emergency wheel is needed, the spacer must be removed.
PARTS INFORMATION TABLE
Description Part Number Quantity
Spacer Ring 951 331 611 02 2
Wheel Bolt 904 341 671 00 10
Wheel Nut 999 1 82 003 36 10
APPROVED WHEEL PART NUMBER TABLE
Size Offset Part Number
7;-i Jxl7 AH 65mm 96536212405
8 Jxl7 AH 52mm 96536212601
9 Jxl7 AH 55mm 96536212800
91.@ Jxl7 AH 68mm 96536212805
APPROVED TIRES AND SIZES (SUMMER VERSIONS) TABLE
Size Makes
225/45 ZR 17 Front Bridgestone Expedia S-01 Nl
255/40 ZR 17 Rear Continental Sport Contact CZ 91 NO
Pirelli P700-Z NO
Yokohama A 008P NO
Michelin MXX 3 NO or MXX NO Pilot SX
APPROVED TIRES AND SIZES (WINTER VERSIONS) TABLE
Size Makes
205/50 R 17 89 H M&S Front Bridgestone WT05
225/45 R 17 90 H M&S Rear Continental TS 750
Pirelli winter 210 Performance
SUSPENSION PART NUMBER TABLE
Suspension Parts
1. Rear Mount
Part Number Quantity Required
951 341 023 00 2 each
2. Eccentric 951 341 431 02 2 each
3. Nut (torque to 100 Nm) 900 910 115 02 4 each
END OF ARTICLE
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andy9eleven
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Think I went with the 225/45 F and 255/40 R setup on my Cup 1s. Kumho's from memory with a nice square shoulder so filled out the arches well. I'm on standard 2.7 lux suspension so needed a bit of chunky. Had 40 profiles on the front before and it was too skinny looking.
ETA - there's a couple of side on shots on my Instagram @andy9eleven to give you an idea.
I'll delete these in a bit so as to not take away from your thread.
ETA - there's a couple of side on shots on my Instagram @andy9eleven to give you an idea.
I'll delete these in a bit so as to not take away from your thread.
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andy9eleven
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Btw, did you know there's a load of photos of F994 on Instragram here Porsche 944 (@944scotland) • Instagram photos and videos . Presume it was the last owner.
big_pete
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@BarryPort I'm parting ways with mine, don't have the time to sort it
BarryPort
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BarryPort
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Good find! That's Iain who I bought the car off 2 weeks ago. Jeese he really did love that thing. Shame a novelty key ring & amber indicators sprayed silver was all it got during his 12 months of ownership.
andy9eleven
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@BarryPort I'm parting ways with mine, don't have the time to sort it
@big_pete PM me details if you're selling up... Thanks