Anyone a solicitor on here?

[Gaz]

All getting very confusing. So, is the car blue or not?

 

[Brennan]

There are quite a few differences that would rule out it being a kitted SE, none more so than what it says on the tax book so thats not and never was an issue.
Clearly the dealer saved some money by fitting a replica kit which tbh I would have queried on viewing but never the less they didn't make this clear at time of sale. Now it seems they had to do a bodge job in order to get the kit to fit which has caused damage to the rear bumper, which is to be expected stuffing wood in there !

If the dealer is willing to put right then fair play I would go with that. Personally I would have preferred the proper wheels too but trying to get them now at this stage is a bitter pill I think you will have to swallow really, not worth risking the bumper fix over

Does this sound right ?

You have got it spot on, the voice of reason at last.

He's apparently giving me wheels of a Sport F30... A Sport F30 sits under the M Sport F30 in the model range. A Sport F30 is a glorified SE, with a few added bits.

Think the wheels are 17 inch, not the ones for my car so I'll most likely just sell them.

I'm taking them for a quiet life.

 

[Rocko]

You can? i can't.

 

[Boabybooster]

Just buy one of these and say it's a replica.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131891421500

 

[Brennan]

Sorry mate but this picture was taken on the 10th of june and i can clearly see creases in the reflection on your bumper ????

You are quite right, when I zoomed in there. They have got a lot more noticeable since though

 

[Brennan]

I think M Performance is the AMG/S Series of BMW, whereas M Sport is like AMG Line and S Line.

You're half right. The proper M cars, like your M3/M4 etc. would be the AMG/RS equivalent

 

[Rocko]

You are quite right, when I zoomed in there. They have got a lot more noticeable since though

I still can't see them. I thought I could but it turned out to be a parking sensor.

 

[O.C.D]

You are quite right, when I zoomed in there. They have got a lot more noticeable since though

But this was only three days after you got the car ( or started the thread on the 7th june ) so how you as a car enthusiast missed them when viewing the car is a mystery.....maybe the glasses you were giving to @G N K you should have used yourself LOL.

 

[Brennan]

But this was only three days after you got the car ( or started the thread on the 7th june ) so how you as a car enthusiast missed them when viewing the car is a mystery.....maybe the glasses you were giving to @G N K you should have used yourself LOL.

Seems like Rocko needs them too

Not quite sure how I missed them, I guess I wasn't looking out for such a thing.

 

[collyirwin11]

Not having a dig here, as I was the same as @Rocko and couldn't grasp all this m sport/m sport performance stuff. So basically if I get this right, there are 4 spec levels? SE, M sport, M performance, then M? So your car is an M sport with M performance diffuser fitted over the factory diffuser? But to make it fit because its a rep part, the bumper had to be stretched? And now your car is getting an m performance rear bumper? Is that different (apart from the diffuser obviously) to the m sport bumper?

 

[Brennan]

Not having a dig here, as I was the same as @Rocko and couldn't grasp all this m sport/m sport performance stuff. So basically if I get this right, there are 4 spec levels? SE, M sport, M performance, then M? So your car is an M sport with M performance diffuser fitted over the factory diffuser? But to make it fit because its a rep part, the bumper had to be stretched? And now your car is getting an m performance rear bumper? Is that different (apart from the diffuser obviously) to the m sport bumper?

In the F30 there are 4 trim models

In order of price, lowest to highest.

SE
Luxury
Sport
M Sport

M division cars like M3/M4 are a whole different breed, they are called F80/F82 respectively. These sit way above the F30 cars.

If you would like to make your M Sport F30 a little fancier you can factory order the car with the add on M Performance kit, BMW will charge you about £2500 for the privellege.

 

[collyirwin11]

In the F30 there are 4 trim models

In order of price, lowest to highest.

SE
Luxury
Sport
M Sport

M division cars like M3/M4 are a whole different breed, they are called F80/F82 respectively. These sit way above the F30 cars.

If you would like to make your M Sport F30 a little fancier you can factory order the car with the add on M Performance kit, BMW will charge you about £2500 for the privellege.

Ahh I get you now. Either way car looks well, great colour

 

[Boabybooster]

In the F30 there are 4 trim models

In order of price, lowest to highest.

SE
Luxury
Sport
M Sport

M division cars like M3/M4 are a whole different breed, they are called F80/F82 respectively. These sit way above the F30 cars.

If you would like to make your M Sport F30 a little fancier you can factory order the car with the add on M Performance kit, BMW will charge you about £2500 for the privellege.

You know what they say though, pay right or pay twice.

 

[O.C.D]

This might help folk out to see the bulges in the bumper were the wood blocks are pushing against the inside of the bumper...

 

[Brennan]

Ahh I get you now. Either way car looks well, great colour

Thanks man, just want it sorted. Have enough stress with work without this on top of it.

 

[Boabybooster]

This might help folk out to see the bulges in the bumper were the wood blocks are pushing against the inside of the bumper...

That actually looks pretty bad when you look for it.

 

[Brennan]

Thank god I changed that English reg lol looked awful

 

[andy_gdon]

On two counts that is **** Azza.

I'd be pissed off myself but how did you not notice the creases? (perhaps this has been answered already?) If they weren't there previously, why have they suddenly appeared?

Surely a 90min drive would be worth it, rather than a shouting match down the phone?

I think you've kinda exposed your whole hand in one go here and now have no way of stepping back down. It's doubtful that you will get a new bumper and could end up with the £1400 bill (or keeping it as it is).

As for the wheels...I wouldn't have collected the car unless they were in the boot already.

Essentially its your word against his and if you have no proof or prior agreement its difficult to see how the situation will be resolved to your satisfaction. Try phoning back and apologising for being a wabb on the phone, and explain that you are just upset by the whole situation but want to find an amicable way to resolve it. Have your facts straight and don't deviate from these - your opinion or his opinion doesn't really matter unless it can be proven.

 

[Brennan]

You know what they say though, pay right or pay twice.

Unfortunately I didn't have the luxury of buying my car brand new or I would have factory ordered said kit.

 

[Burt2000]

Do you know what happened with the original M sport diffuser?

 

[Wild Thing]

Cant be arsed reading whole thread my theory, car whacked up the jacksie and rep parts fitted, if thats your car above the bumpers a few shades out

 

[Brennan]

Do you know what happened with the original M sport diffuser?

God only knows, he probably threw it away or sold it

 

[chris_b]

You're half right. The proper M cars, like your M3/M4 etc. would be the AMG/RS equivalent

Dont confuse the Bangorian any more than he is already !

I think everyone is being a little unforgiving on how this wasn't spotted when doing the deal. Lets be honest, sometimes when looking at a new car we do so with rose tinted glasses to a degree. 9 times out of 10 when you first see it your heart says you want it and then its a case of doing your best to ensure all is as its supposed to be and its very easy to miss things.
Brennan's thread has been up for a while and its only now when the bumper has came to a head that suddenly people can see it in pictures posted a while ago, how come not then ???

At the end of the day its a minor issue really and when buying a secondhand car if the seller trying to save a few quid on jazzing it up a little was all anyone had to worry about the world would be a better place. The seller has said he will put right and thats a result and I personally would be happy with that.

Its a beautiful car and hopefully this is rectified and you can get back to enjoying it Brennan !

 

[Gobsheene]

God only knows, he probably threw it away or sold it

Thinking realistically I'd imagine the original was missing or damaged, so replace it with a decent replica. Tidy up the car, and keep spend down so the margin is greater.

I take it that there is other M Performance stuff on the car, is it also fake?

Have you had the bumper removed and the work inspected? Thats the 1st thing i'd have done.

As for not being spotted at the time, i'm sure it wasnt that way when it left the body shop. Someone probaly has gently backed in to the car at some point and creased the bumper for you making the damage appear.

 

[Brennan]

Dont confuse the Bangorian any more than he is already !

I think everyone is being a little unforgiving on how this wasn't spotted when doing the deal. Lets be honest, sometimes when looking at a new car we do so with rose tinted glasses to a degree. 9 times out of 10 when you first see it your heart says you want it and then its a case of doing your best to ensure all is as its supped to be and its very easy to miss things.
Brennan's thread has been up for a while and its only now when the bumper has came to a head that suddenly people can see it in pictures posted a while ago, how come not then ???

At the end of the day its a minor issue really and when buying a secondhand car if the seller trying to save a few quid on jazzing it up a little was all anyone had to worry about the world would be a better place. The seller has said he will put right and thats a result and I personally would be happy with that.

Its a beautiful car and hopefully this is rectified and you can get back to enjoying it Brennan !

Perfect post to sum it all up, couldn't have wrote that better. Thanks man