"Reasonable Force"

[tbdevpaul]

The guy who had the evo4 stolen on her a few months back there were 2 car loads showed up to take it so six people minimum. Very rare you will have a lone thief come for your possessions or your car so the odds are highly stacked against you.

Know a farmer who saw some fellas heading into his yard at night so he walked into a large cattle shed and started cracking of the shotgun inside the tin building and that worked a treat.

If there is a squad there to get your car call the police and hope for the best. If its wife and kids in danger time then do what you want and dont worry about legality or reasonable force, if the guy is on drugs you may have to kill him to get him to stop and so be it. And so what if you have to do time, your family is safe.

People worry too much about the legal side of defence just do what you feel is necessary and deal with the consequences later.

 

[B A Baracus]

Keep a gallon of brick acid handy in a container marked water.

 

[rosie]

Honestly I think id let them take the car - id break my heart but better that than getting stabbed trying to fight them off and then they'd take the car anyhow.

Cars can be replaced a family member can't.
Doesn't matter anyway we have our huge chocolate brwon lab "guard dog" lol she'd maybe lick them to death.

 

[Gaz]

I'd do whatever it takes tbh, even I ended up serving time for it. It's easy to say 'its only a car and can be replaced' but we don't work our asses off just so thieves can take something away, force us to replace it and land us with higher insurance premiums. Then come and take it again.

It's the principle of the matter really. Unfortunately on the few occasions when I have encountered thieves they were long gone before I could get anywhere near them.

 

[scub]

base ball bat them unconscious , cover their faces in dog food and leave my dogue de bordeaux with a hatred of strangers in the room with him for 5 minutes
well in my mind thats what d happen , in reality if they're holding a knife over your face your giving them the keys.

 

[Alan_B]

.22 in the knees. Unfortunately I dont have access to a double barrell shotgun.

 

[svensktoppen]

Short answer is nobody knows what you can do.

You have the right to "defend yourself". If you do, you will be dragged to court, and a jury will decide if you were in the right or not. Depending on circumstances you may or may not get legal aid.

Meanwhile, the thief will get some hot food and a drive home.

 

[santoz]

Its what you say and how you word it that determines whether you get jailed for defending yourself, you could easily kill six people and walk free as long as you don't say something stupid like "I wanted to teach them a lesson". This country, and its legal system does allow you to defend yourself in whatever you deem necessary to preserve your own life; its the human rights bollocks that lets the thieves off and treats them like their in the right!

 

[santoz]

A wee tip, if someone ever does have something like this happen is not to open your mouth to police until you see a solicitor or someone proficient in this type of law and think very carefully about what you say!

The police can sometimes be a bigger enemy and threat then the thief / criminal; I unfortunately have experience of this that nearly messed up my life!

 

[_ZS_]

How can anyone nick your car if you're doing 145 down the Ards carriageway?

 

[Rocko]

They come to the house and steal it?

 

[Coog]

I guess they could also scoop out your remaining body parts from the wreckage with a shovel and sweep the remaining pieces of your motor into a black bag.... and steal it.

 

[Rocko]

You cant steal lies Coog.

Jesus says so.

 

[W9NGJ]

im sorry but i wouldnt care how many of them they are, i think with the adreliane pumping id have a go. why not

 

[stevieturbo]

A wee tip, if someone ever does have something like this happen is not to open your mouth to police until you see a solicitor or someone proficient in this type of law and think very carefully about what you say!

The police can sometimes be a bigger enemy and threat then the thief / criminal; I unfortunately have experience of this that nearly messed up my life!

Think long and hard before saying anything.....after such a traumatic incident, you would of course need time before making any statement.
And as Santoz says, with proper sound legal representation with you !!!

The legal system can easily twist a perfectly innocent persons statement, into a well worded confession of guilt.

The rules in the US may not be the same as the UK...but this is still an excellent listen

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc]YouTube - Dont Talk to Police[/ame]

 

[stevieturbo]

double post

 

[EDZ 7]

Sounds like Good Advice santoz.

‘You have the right to remain silent'

 

[stevieturbo]

Sounds like Good Advice santoz.

‘You have the right to remain silent'

They WILL use anything you say against you !

 

[Sgt_Major]

The only thing you should ever say to a cop after arrest is "Please sir, not in the face again"

Your comments after arrest get read out in court

 

[stevieturbo]

The only thing you should ever say to a cop after arrest is "Please sir, not in the face again"

Your comments after arrest get read out in court

You got a facial from a cop ? scary !

 

[initialbmx]

hit them on the back of the head with a hammer , put them in the boot of the car, [might have to remove some stereo] take them to the top of the glenshane, rape them with a piece of copper pipe and barbed wire.[ put the wire inside the tube, all the way, and pull the tube out]. tie them to a tree and leave them to rot. if they manage to untie themselves, they still wont be able to walk too far....................... and ill be waiting down the road..ohhhhhhhh yesssssss. one less thieving ****bag.

 

[therock]

The only thing you should ever say to a cop after arrest is "Please sir, not in the face again"

Your comments after arrest get read out in court

Of courseee they do

 

[NEALE206]

i got broke into in 08, cop that came out said he was robbed a few months before, chased after them got hold of one of them then the other 2 came back kicked the f**k outa the cop. still had the bruises. said best thing to do is to let them take it. if it was to happen to me again and i heard them id set my g shephard on them, punch myself in the face say came at me and was self defence.

 

[rmsnoel]

Would this thread count as pre-meditated,, if you defend defend yourself with that 3x2 the builders must have left behind cause you never seen it before

 

[B A Baracus]

Ive a Police Baton handy at the top of the stairs.