F1 2020

[Petem86]

its to do with steering modes, and potentially ride height etc etc

 

[svensktoppen]

Could be literally anything. Or nothing. Surely any sort of aid is banned anyway? Would be pushing the boat out given the palaver over that sort of thing in the past. If that is what it is. Which it may or may not be, lol

Still a bit interesting

 

[Petem86]

its something, and its to do with steering or camber someone has noticed.
Merc have said its not just for testing and its part of the car, apparently the tech director is part of the press conf later

 

[DC.]

 

[pablo]

what an ingenious solution, bound to be illegal though

 

[mcmurray]

Very smart if it adjusts toe settings.

This got me

 

[svensktoppen]

I suppose aids that have been banned in the past have had to do with controlling aero in various forms.

No idea if something like that is illegal or not, but bound to be contested, lol. Unless everyone can copy it quickly and just all stay quiet

 

[DC.]

If it adjusts the suspension, it’s illegal @pablo.

Not sure it does though. Fantastic innovation regardless.

 

[DC.]

 

[svensktoppen]

Obviously they must have run it past FIA. Doesn't mean it won't be contested now it's out in the open.

Probably pushing the boundaries.

 

[Delboy23]

It pulls the toe of the front wheels in for ‘straight line gains’ apparently. Probably does more but that’s it until we get a proper video

 

[DC.]

I understood it to adjust the toe as to stop the standard toe-out from scrubbing the tyres on straights thus lengthening the tyre life in turn allowing them to push the tyres harder.

 

[svensktoppen]

Yes.

 

[sam_9n]

Mercedes: FIA has given dual-axis steering (DAS) all clear

Mercedes Formula 1 technical chief James Allison says he is not concerned about the legality of a steering wheel system

www.motorsportweek.com

 

[pablo]

 

[carmad.]

ya think they would have wired hamilton off and say pull it out slowly

 

[stevyg]

Very cool from Mercedes with the new rear and DAS. Good to see they are still pushing. If any of you have really tried to set up your track car you know how frustrating it is trying to get everything right working with toe, camber, caster, sway, anti-roll and then trying to figure out variable bump steer, tie rods, main & tender spring settings with 5+ way damper controls, ride height and stiffness etc etc. I can't even imagine the engineering that went into a floating steering wheel that adjusts like that on the fly, blows my mind the minute angle adjustments that have to all work together with the aero.

 

[weeloaney]

ya think they would have wired hamilton off and say pull it out slowly

Sometimes you just need to pull out quickly tho

 

[svensktoppen]

To be honest I'm with Vettel on the steering thing. Probably not going to be all that effective for the added complexity and added workload for the driver. Most likely something they are just playing with in testing. Or even just a smokescreen to keep eyes away from something else

Time will tell I guess.

The redesigned rear and aero changes there look much more interesting!

Quite keen for the first race now and see what's what

 

[stevyg]

I reckon it will give Mercedes a couple MPH top speed (they need it) neutralizing the toe on the long straights and will allow them to manage the tyre temps even better now the driver has some control of scrubbing with the toe in or out. You're right it's not the golden ticket to winning a championship but as Tesco say- every little helps and in F1 it's all about the little gains. Now the FIA say it's legal, we'll see if the other teams scramble to develop their own

 

[lackingBHP]

Early days but looks like Ferrari are in big trouble...

 

[da.murf]

Check sky f1. Ted just did a great piece on it.
Mercedes DAS or dual axis steering. Allows driver to manually alter front toe.

 

[impact]

Legal for a year

Mercedes steering device banned from 2021 - BBC Sport

The innovative steering system introduced by Mercedes for this season will be banned from 2021.

www-bbc-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org

 

[DC.]

What We've Learned from the First Week of Testing

“You can’t learn anything from laptimes during testing”. This phrase is often heard during the winter and repeated so often that it has become more or less accepted as fact. But is it true? Try telling it to the Team Strategists and see their response.

www.mercedesamgf1.com

 

[weeloaney]

To be honest I'm with Vettel on the steering thing. Probably not going to be all that effective for the added complexity and added workload for the driver. Most likely something they are just playing with in testing. Or even just a smokescreen to keep eyes away from something else

Time will tell I guess.

The redesigned rear and aero changes there look much more interesting!

Quite keen for the first race now and see what's what

It would be a lot of engineering and expense just to use as a smoke screen. Will be interesting if it makes it through testing and whether it’ll be banned or not.

quite a cool trick tho to do something like that, that’s just simply involves pulling the steering wheel back to adjust the toe and yet keep everything strong and stable and not move/self adjust under normal load