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Max please please do not morf into a lewis, its not looking so good at present
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Watched the video of him having a go at Ocon. What a d1ck hope he gets a penalty.
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I haven’t seen Lewis attack another driver after the race.
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Agreed dave but you can just see a tallented driver become a prima donna
At the end of the day kimi is just the coolest driver on the grid, nothing phases him
At the end of the day kimi is just the coolest driver on the grid, nothing phases him
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I agree about Kimi, Ferrari should have dumped Vettel and kept Kimi
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Karma is a bitch eh Max.
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I think if I was Ocon I'd have done the same thing.
Coming out of the pits on fresh tyres, you would be thinking you have to make the most of the tyre while you can. So your flying round and you catch up with the race leader who is a lap ahead but who is in tyre saving mode and going slowly. What do you do?
You pull up beside him and make it clear that you are trying to pass. You think he should know you have been taking 0.5 sec a lap out of him and you aren't fighting for position so why hold you up. But no, he would prefer to run you off the road rather than let a car that is no threat pass.
Vettel let Raikkonen past when he had a tyre advantage, no need to take it as a personal insult. Definitely no need to lose a race because of it.
Laying hands on someone is not acceptable in professional sport, especially in full view of the cameras. I'd have given him a race ban.
Coming out of the pits on fresh tyres, you would be thinking you have to make the most of the tyre while you can. So your flying round and you catch up with the race leader who is a lap ahead but who is in tyre saving mode and going slowly. What do you do?
You pull up beside him and make it clear that you are trying to pass. You think he should know you have been taking 0.5 sec a lap out of him and you aren't fighting for position so why hold you up. But no, he would prefer to run you off the road rather than let a car that is no threat pass.
Vettel let Raikkonen past when he had a tyre advantage, no need to take it as a personal insult. Definitely no need to lose a race because of it.
Laying hands on someone is not acceptable in professional sport, especially in full view of the cameras. I'd have given him a race ban.
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to be fair Max had the corner and the line and was in front. What Ocon did was throw it up the inside and hope Max yielded. Good luck with that.
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Was an interesting one that.
Ultimately Occon shoudn't have tried to pass the race leader unless actually let through. He won't get a job with RB any time soon
But likewise there was no reason for Max to "fight" over a non-existent position when leading the race and with everything to lose. Just leave Occon room and then pass under blues at the next corner. Would have been annoying, yes, but he was not under threat from anyone.
It looked really bad at first but really a "racing incident" that could have been avoided by either driver. Lewis was spot on after the race.
Certainly no reason to go starting fist fights or to sulk on the podium.
Still a real shame for Max, he did run a perfect race and deserved the win.
Lewis managed to salvage a bad weekend, just look at where Bottas finished.
Brilliant drives by Kimi and Riciardo again as well, by far the two most agreeable drivers at the top of the grid
Ultimately Occon shoudn't have tried to pass the race leader unless actually let through. He won't get a job with RB any time soon
But likewise there was no reason for Max to "fight" over a non-existent position when leading the race and with everything to lose. Just leave Occon room and then pass under blues at the next corner. Would have been annoying, yes, but he was not under threat from anyone.
It looked really bad at first but really a "racing incident" that could have been avoided by either driver. Lewis was spot on after the race.
Certainly no reason to go starting fist fights or to sulk on the podium.
Still a real shame for Max, he did run a perfect race and deserved the win.
Lewis managed to salvage a bad weekend, just look at where Bottas finished.
Brilliant drives by Kimi and Riciardo again as well, by far the two most agreeable drivers at the top of the grid
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I didn't see the fuss, I think Ocon was entitled to make that move, he wasn't under blues and was faster than Max, he had every right to unlap himself, Max left him absolutely no room and should've left him a cars width
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faster means you are in the lead at the corner. Ocon was behind. Not sure what else there is to it?
He is 1/2 car length ahead
He is 1/2 car length ahead
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I guess the point isn't technically right or wrong, that goes any which way. And Occon got the toughest penalty short of disqualification so it's not like he got away with anything.
The point is it was a fight Max didn't have to pick.
He and Occon go way back, this was more about Max deciding to keep Occon behind just because.
And it cost him the race, with no upside for him.
The point is it was a fight Max didn't have to pick.
He and Occon go way back, this was more about Max deciding to keep Occon behind just because.
And it cost him the race, with no upside for him.
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faster means you are in the lead at the corner. Ocon was behind. Not sure what else there is to it?
He is 1/2 car length ahead
In car camera from Occon shows he hadn't really anywhere to go, he was along side a few tenths before. For sure Maxs agressiveness makes him a good racer that grinds out results others wouldnt but he will have to learn to play the percentage game if he wants a world championship. This year has showed up his lack of maturity though still one of the best to watch on a race by race basis.
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Ocon was beside him from going into turn one, Max shouldnt have turned in just expecting him to disappear, a costly lesson that he won’t learn from most likely.
Brilliant driver but a championship Losing mistake if he doesn’t learn from it
Brilliant driver but a championship Losing mistake if he doesn’t learn from it
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He's a typical product of F1, entitled and bratty, he needs to take it on the chin and stop being a lil bitch about it
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must be a Verstappen thing though the boot was on the other foot back in 2001 with his da & montoya at interlagos
tbh i think Hamilton was bang on when he said ocon had nothing to lose so why put yourself in that position
though the boot was on the other foot back in 2001 with his da & montoya at interlagostbh i think Hamilton was bang on when he said ocon had nothing to lose so why put yourself in that position
1/4 length there, 1/2 length when they actually get to the corner
But who has the inside line and who then decided to hit the apex and not leave a car's width like they should do!?? Sorry but had this have been first vs second then Max was at fault so I don't see the difference when it's a backmarker that is lapping .5 seconds a lap faster at that point of the race. Ocon would have drove away from Max's current pace for a few laps before his tyres went off, then Max would have caught him and went passed with no drama. His problem was he couldn't have Ocon unlapping himself - he cost himself the race and he'll learn from it.
I enjoy what he brings to F1 and at least he gives talking points, he has some growing up to do though.
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Look at the pass someone (ricciardo?) made on bottas in the same place. Bottas conceded the corner and did the opposite of what Ocon did. The car in Max’s position has the corner and the lead imo. Chucking the sausage up the inside and being half a car length behind does not entitle you to the corner.
All said and done though it’s great entertainment. I’d rather have a bit of spice in the paddock than PR dept approved statements.
All said and done though it’s great entertainment. I’d rather have a bit of spice in the paddock than PR dept approved statements.
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Surely Red Bull should have been on the blower telling him to let him by?
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Plenty of arguement both ways whether Occon should have been there or not, he has the right to unlap himself but more sporting not to interfere with lead car.
All irrelevant though, the fact was he was there and may or may not have yielded the corner and Max should have taken that into consideration since he was in lead and under no immediate pressure. Kimi or Hamilton in same position would have left space and still won.
This hindsight armchair racing punditry is easy
All irrelevant though, the fact was he was there and may or may not have yielded the corner and Max should have taken that into consideration since he was in lead and under no immediate pressure. Kimi or Hamilton in same position would have left space and still won.
This hindsight armchair racing punditry is easy
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